DallasCanadian

ok thanks for clearing that up, just wasnt sure. But anyways yes My friend Danny has an Rsx Type-S knows alot about honda/Acura engines and yes the Civic Si comes stock with b16 in the states.

DallasCanadian

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B16A breakdown
-I did not write this article. I happened to find on the web a while ago-



There are 4 general classifications for B16A motors:

B16A SiR
B16A SiR II
B16A2
B16A3
It is often confused as to which motor is which. In this article, we will help you to pick out the clues as to which motor is which, and which one you should get for your B16 swap.

Although I just noted that there are 4 classes of B16A's, we can break that list down into two groups.

Our new grouping of B16A motors:

B16A SiR
B16A SiR II, B16A2, B16A3
Why this breakdown?

It all comes down to OBD. OBD, or on board diagnostics, are broken down into levels, based on the years they are instated. For more info on OBD, please read our article on OBD - Explained.) The B16A SiR, commonly and mistakenly called the B16A1, is an OBD-0 motor. This was the first level of OBD installed on motor ethicals. The other 3 are either OBD-1 or OBD-2 motors.

The SiR was designed for a 4th gen chassis. It works great with an 88-91 civic. However, try putting this motor in a 92+ civic and the problems will just start to flow. The tranny on the SiR is cable. the 5th gen chassis uses hydraulic actuation.

Why is the SiR cheaper?

It's cheaper for several reasons. First, it's older. Second, the A2/A3/SiR II have a higher demand, as they work in newer cars and have a higher output.

How to tell the difference between an SiR and an A2/A3/SiR II

SiR uses a cable tranny- 5th gens are hydraulic
SiR has a lower compression ratio, 10.2:1 and makes 160ps
A2/A3/SiR II have a higher compression ratio at 10.4:1 (10.2:1 A2/A3) and make 160hp (A2/A3) or 170ps (SiR II)
A2/A3/SiR II motors have a better cam profile
A2/A3/SiR II have better oiling functions, keeping things better lubricated
SiR has cast aluminum oil spray bars while the A2/A3/SiR II are made of extruded aluminum.
A2/A3/SiR II have a single- 4-wire O2 sensor instead of 2-single wire O2 sensors
A2/A3/SiR II MAP sensor is an integral part of the throttle body, not an external one with a tube.
A2/A3/SiR II harnesses are grey. SiR has cream colored ones.
SiR is PGM-F1, clearly labeled on the intake manifold, andA2/A3/SiR II are MPFI
SiR valve covers have "DOHC" written in a larger font size than "VTEC"
A2/A3/SiR II valve covers have "VTEC" written in a larger font size than "DOHC"


88-91 B16A's are known as the SIR 1. It uses OBD0 Ecu's, and cable tranny's. The engine serial number is usually 1xxxxxx.
92+ B16A's are known as the SIR 2. It uses OBD1 or OBD2(2b), and hydraulic trannys. The engine serial number is usually 5xxxxxx
The #'s at the end of the block code tell where the engine originated from. The Americas, Europe, Austraillia, etc.....
ALL Japanese engines, generally do NOT have a number after them. (** see below)
SO, if you have a B16A1,2,3,4, or 5. It is usually NOT a true JDM engine. Don't mistake a B16A1 as being a cable unit, because it could be a hydraulic. There are other ways to tell what year it is exactly.

**NOTE: There is ONE exception to this rule. In 90-91, the Civic/CRX SiR came with a B16A1, but they are SUPER rare, and came 160HP with 10.4:1 compression. Their counterpart of the same year was a 158HP, 10.2:1. They are very difficult to tell apart.http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124796

imported_zc_hatch

si in the us for 99-00 had b16 we just named our sir as theirs was si

Gunmetalef

bdotdan is right threre was no b series in a 92 - 95 civic
only in JDM land

Cantonagod

That is correct, the Canadian Si, was the exquivelent of the US EX in 1999 and 2000. The US Si, is the Canadian SiR.

bdotdan

yes a si in the states does come with a b16a2 as well as the sir in canada

BUT

only in 99-00.

your buddy doesn't know as much as you think.

DallasCanadian

so what would be the fastest 92-95 series hatchback. (HP)

bdotdan

si like gatherer already said
125 hp i believe

DallasCanadian

Quoting Danny - Well in America the 92-95 civics have b16. he is right while i was there, all the si's we saw had b16.

DallasCanadian

how much hp does the Canadian si have?

DallasCanadian

mine had no engine swap and it was b16

bdotdan

96-98 as well

DallasCanadian

the leafs lost badly. they have to win the next game

bdotdan

did you own your ever since it was brand new?

like i just said 125hp

DallasCanadian

no, but i havea history and even when i talked to honda (USA) tehy said it was b16. Maybe the original owners ordered it that way

DallasCanadian

125 is the most hp you can get stock for a 92-95 civic hatch. Damn Canadian Hondas Suck Stock. The fastest stock there (USA) is 160. but thats ok i will purchase the Si and get a turbo or maybe an H22 engine Swap. Depends on funding. Moms BF owns Speedwrench Auto in Cambridge. Im getting my car mods done there. just needed to know what needed to be done to start off with a decent car. If anyone wants to make suggestions for cheapest way of modding my car just pm me or add to this thread. I'll check it Daily. Thanks for everyones input.

bdotdan

doubt that was possible, maybe they honda thought you were talking about 99-00 si's

i just looked it up, ALL 92-95 si's came with a d16z6. so once again im saying there were no 92-95 si's with a b16 in it.

DallasCanadian

wtf hardly any d16 in texas. Thanks tho

bdotdan

then they had swaps, cause no 92-95 si had a b series engine, im sorry to say your friend don't know jack

DallasCanadian

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/engines/Engines.htm

go there and scroll to see they have Civic Sir in the states with b16. Mine WAs si but iono bout Sir cuz mine was b16 with 160 hp. what do you say to that foo. DTX Dallas representa....lol

For those who can't view that link scroll down....


Engines

This section includes specs on the most common swaps into a 4th Gen Honda Civic. This section also shows you what the stock Civics' came with.



Specs for Honda/Acura Engines
Model/Year Engine Technical Specs Power/Redline Torque
88-91DX
88-91LX D15B2

1493cc
4 cyl, 16valve
SOHC
9.2:1 c.r
92 bhp @ 6000
Redline: 6800 rpm 89 lb-ft @ 4500
88-91Si D16A6

1590cc
4 cyl, 16valve
SOHC
9.1:1 c.r.
108 bhp @ 6000
Redline: 7100 rpm 100 lb-ft @ 5000
88-91 1.6i
(asian specs)
90-93 Integra LS
90-93 Integra RS ZC
D16A8 D16A9

1595cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC
9.1 c.r.
137 bhp @ 6800
Redline: 7200 rpm 108 lb-ft @ 5700
90-91 Civic Si-R (EF-9) B16A1

1595cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC VTEC
10.4:1c.r.
160 bhp @ 7600
Redline: 8200 rpm 111 lb-ft @ 7000
90-91 Integra GS B18B

1834cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC
9.2:1 c.r.
130 bhp @ 6000
Redline: 6500 rpm 121 lb-ft @ 5000
92-93 Integra GS B18B1

1834cc
4 cyl, 16 valve
DOHC
9.2:1 c.r.
140 hp @ 6300
Redline: 6800 rpm 121 lb-ft @ 5200
92-95 Civic Si
92-95 Civic Ex
93-95 Del Sol Si D16Z6

1590cc
4 cyl, 16 valve
SOHC VTEC
9.2:1 c.r.
125 bhp @ 6600
Redline: 7200 rpm 106 lb-ft @ 5200
92-95 Civic VTi
(EDM ver, EG6)
92-95 Civic Si-R
(JDM EG6)
93-95 Del Sol VTEC
(EG2) B16A2/A3

1595cc
4 cyl, 16 valve
DOHC VTEC
10.4:1 c.r.
160 bhp @ 7600
Redline: 8200 rpm 111 lb-ft @ 7000
92-93 Integra GS-R B17

1678cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC VTEC
10.0:1 c.r.
160 bhp @ 7600
Redline: 8000 rpm 117 lb-ft @ 7000
94+ Integra LS
94+ Integra RS
94+ Integra GS B18B1

1834cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC
9.2:1 c.r.
142 hp @ 6300
Redline: 6800 rpm 127 lb-ft @ 5200
94+ Integra GS-R B18C1

1797cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC VTEC
10.0:1 c.r.
Dual stage intake
170 bhp @ 7600
Redline: 8200 rpm 128lbs-ft @ 6200
96+ Civic EX D16Y8

1590cc
4 cyl, 16valve
SOHC VTEC-II
9.6:1 c.r.
127 bhp @ 6600
Redline: 7200 rpm 107 lb-ft @ 5500
96+ Civic Si-RII B16A4

1595cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC VTEC
10.4:1 c.r.
170 bhp @ 7800
Redline: 8200 rpm 16Nm @ 7300
98+ Integra Type-R B18C
98 Spec-R

1797cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC VTEC
10.0:1 c.r
210 bhp @ 8100
Redline: 8900 rpm 18.5Nm @ 7500
98+ Civic Type-R B16B
98 Spec-R

1595cc
4 cyl, 16valve
DOHC VTEC
10.4:1 c.r.
185 bhp @ 8200
Redline: 9000 rpm 16.3Nm @ 7600