hopefullyab16a1

Ok.
This is another one of my many (I'm sure you find annoying) posts about how a b16 will swap into a Civic.

Ok.

I've come down to this, I want to put in a b16a2 into a Civic b/c it seems to be the easiest swap.

The question is WHAT IS EVERYTHING I WILL NEED?
I don't want to get halfway into this swap and find out I need something else.

So far this is what I KNOW I need...
-Engine, Tranny, ECU, Wiring Harness

and now I just heard that I need new axles too?
Is this ture?

so if I do need axles add it to the list above and anything else I need please let me know...

Thanks. I really appreciate all the help you guys have given me so far (and for putting up with my questions I'm sure you find stupid), your forum is one of the best Ive been on.

HAPPY

B16a2 or 2nd Gen B16a ... these two things are not the same.

I'd suggest the later.

1niceSi

motor
tranny
ecu
shift linkage
motor/tranny mounts (you will need 5 mounts)
axles

possibly an OBDI to OBDII converter...depending on how you want to wire it up

Quick_CX

u don't need wiring harness....if u buy a obd2 motor and ur car is obd1 wiring harness u can run a obd1 SiR ecu and it will be fine....or if ur stiuck u can use ecu conerter yea...

90EFHB

What do you mean?

as far as I know the B16a2 is the second gen B16.....please let me in on your source with a reference.

Thanks

cosmic zx2

b16a Gen 1 1991-1992
b16a Gen 2 1992-1996

b16a2 1992-1995 JDM SiR
b16a2 1999-2000 USDM SiR

b16a3 1992-1995 USDM del Sol


hope that helps

SilverCRXSi

The 2nd gen is technically b16a1, while the 1st gen is just the b16.

90EFHB

I asked for a reference not a type of what you think is the case Jon....

http://www.hondaswap.com/reference/i...hp?mode=engine

http://www.teirney.net/civic/B16AReference.htm

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...rticle_id=7367

All sites do not reference it the way you are stating...so please provide the link.....

90EFHB

Actually even the TCC reference guide doesn't list thing sthe way you stated....

http://www.torontocivics.com/articles/engineguide.html

So who is wrong you or ryuujin?

90EFHB

I believe there is no such thing as a B16a1 I have read that is a misconception.....

1niceSi

good links dave....too bad it doesn't mention the computer/ECU version ie. OBDI/II

cosmic zx2

excuse me??? what i think is the case? ...my apologies for not giving you a link
http://www.604civicclub.com/enginelist.html

90EFHB

A vancouver civic club link?

What about everyone else on the net? like the TCC....so are you stating ryuujin is incorrect in his list?

Come start an internal fight!

cosmic zx2

you asked for a link.... i gave you one
if you're too proud, you can apologize for your "not a type of what you think is the case Jon" remark to my PM

as for Ryuujin??? who knows... i think all the drugs are catching up with him

90EFHB

my apologies but i was asking for a link which was not provided in your original post....but back to the discussion....a vancity 604 club link????? i would suggest it doesn't hold that much water....
hell in some people's eyes niether does the TCC reference chart.
I will see about speaking to my friend at Honda in getting a more definite answer on the topic

i have a few more links that discuss the 2nd gen and it seems to follow the path i have read time and time again

Identifying 1st and 2nd generation B16A
http://asia.vtec.net/topics/b16aver.html

A beginners guide to telling which B16 is which

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/b16/index.html

Please tell me there is more than that one link that shows the description you are stating

cosmic zx2

so this guy Adrian Teo is telling us that the B16a (JDM) has a first and second generation

then he talks about the USDM B16A2

so my guess after reading that is that there is a B16a2 AND a second generation b16a and they are NOT the same

thanks dave... you just proved my point

cosmic zx2

by reading this i can determine that there are 2 generations of the JDM b16a

by reading this i now know that there is a usdm b16a2


usdm and JDM are different... therefore i can safely state that there is a b16a2 and a second gen b16a and they are different

90EFHB

Maybe I am missing the text in the page in my old age...but what line does he mention the USDM B16a2 engine is different from the JDM 2nd gen.
What he said was from what I read is the JDM doesn't stamp the engines for easier reference like in the US? I don't see where he states they are different.....I believe that is called assuming and assuming makes an *** out u and me....

Remember just busting your ***** to see how resourceful you are.....keep digging

90EFHB

By your theory then there is a difference between the Coupe Si in Canada and the Coupe EX in the US.

Even though everything inside is exactly the same........

cosmic zx2

ask aaron what the difference between USDM and JDM is



wait...here it is

http://www.raceup.com/engines.htm