imported_jaysi

OK I lowered my car with H&R sport springs.

First off, it says the drop for the front is 1.75, how low should this look? I can fit one finger in the gap.

Here are my results from my alignment...only showing camber...

Left Front Camber
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Min ------ Max | Before -------- After
-1.0 ------ 1.0 | -1.3 ----------- -1.3

Right Front Camber
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Min ------ Max | Before -------- After
-1.0 ------ 1.0 | -2.0 --------- -2.0

Left Rear Camber
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Min ------ Max | Before -------- After
-2.0 ----- 0.0 | -2.0 ---------- -2.2

Left Rear Camber
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Min ------ Max | Before -------- After
-2.0 ----- 0.0 | -0.7 --------- -0.8


Notes: Not sure on the Before stuff...they only put it on after the springs so I dunno what that means.

Is a camber kit needed in my situation?

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

who installed this mess?

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

Actually, to answer your question...

note how the left and right side is not equal for the front and the rear. That's an install mistake that an alignment shop should be able to fix. Front camber is okay if about -1 degree. Rear, I have found to be good at -1.5 - -2.0 degrees. Now, that being said, I like to run some camber in the back. This boosheet about camber wear, yeah... over 2 years I wore out 2 rear tires about 75% outside, 85% inside... that's 10% wear diff over 2 years, but with one trip to Toronto, and one trip to London, I tore the rest of those tires right through cuz of my toe in. This is the one alignment spec you REALLY have to watch!! Now, alignment is a personal preference... I can't tell you what you'll like. But NO, I don't think you need a camber kit.

imported_jaysi

Thanks for the info.
I did the fronts a shop did the rears because those LCA bolts refused to budge.
I'm removing the fronts and gunna reinstall them, I didnt but that ring that goes on the shock then sides onto the fork.

Perhaps that'll make some difference.

My toe is 0.05 all around.

imported_SurferBoy

The Before Just means what you came in with prior to the alignment the after is the result of the alignment.

I would do the reinstall you said you were going to do then go back in.

It doesn't seem you are to far off of spec but hard to tell as you have 1 side that is way off.

Fix the install first.

I beleive their is some camber adjustment to the front they can work with. (could be wrong)

As long as you are not tooo far off the Min Max values, you should be alright.

As bruno said its the toe you really have to watch out for. It killed a set of my tires.

imported_jaysi

Thanks guys, my toe is 0.05 all around, which is fine I'm assuming.

There is no camber adjustment, thats what the shop told me. Are they full of it? I'm gunna take it somewhere else next. I'll try Honda.

imported_SirII

There is no front camber adjustment on civics. I don't see how it can be an install mistake on the suspenson. There is only one way to put on the shocks. 2 bolts on the shock tower, 1 that attaches the fork to the shock and 1 that goes through the fork and the lca. The only thing that cause such a big difference in the front camber is if he didin't stick the shock all the way into the fork. Otherwise that's just the way it is.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

Yes, no camber adjustment at all... you want proper camber adj you need a new set of a-arms. This will NOT be necessary with your specs. Just make sure its even all around, and your toe readings are EXCELLENT. You won't have any problems. By the way, you don't **** with toe until you do the trailing arm... that's where the toe gets fooked. As for the camber, be consistent when putting everything back together... like leave everything loose, and have a buddy hold the susp pulling it out while you tighten everything.