imported_alwaysoverkill

Car is a 99 Acura 1.6EL with stock Sway bars so 24mm front, 13mm rear.

seriously thinking of getting a 22mm CTR rear sway bar with a beaks kit, just been reading about sub frame tearout and am kinda concerned with it considering my stock rear sway bar is 13mm and this is 70% stiffer, plus the car has 182,000km on it.

Another option is a 19mm ITR rear sway bar, less stress on the sub-frame and probably more streetable then the huge *** CTR one.

a few questions though:
will the beaks kit really transfer the force over more area to save the subframe with the stiffer rear bar?

I know having performance shocks/springs helps, but for winter i'll be going back to stock shocks/springs so there will be more suspension travel, thus more stress on the subframe with the bar

I think it'd round-out my handling upgrades nicely to go with Tokico Illumina's set at 3F/4R and H&R Sports. Stock front sway bar is 24mm

I can pick it up for $180 for the sway bar, brackets and rubbers and the beaks kit, i'll use my stock end links.

I believe it will help eliminate or control understeer and when combined with Hankook R-S2 Z212 i should get some great grip out of this thing.

imported_GoldBadge

Apparently people have had their subframes tear with the beaks kit on as well.

If you're that worried, you should try to get one of the ASR sub frame braces. They're the best option out there aside from custom fabrication.

The only downside is it's +/- $300. Nova has one, he would know best.

imported_SaYjAiBaO

why don't you just take off the sway bar during the winter. if you go through the trouble of putting stock suspension back on. either take it out or just detach the endlinks.

imported_alwaysoverkill

true, could just return to stock 13mm bar for winter, its really no extra work cause the car will be on the jack stands for suspension change anyways. but i'm still concerned about subframe tear out from march-nov with the summer suspension. I'm not tearing up road courses, but I do like to have fun on off ramps, but overall, i don't drive the car that hard, especially in the city. but when i do drive hard (up north, not in the city) I love enjoying the corners at what i'd consider higher speeds.

imported_Thrill_House

Man i would be worried about the rear end kicking out with a sway bar that thick, I hope the front is evenly matched.

imported_GoldBadge

Buy a nice racing seat. It makes a huge difference.

RDub99

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ASR's the sheeeit.. I want one of those kits!

imported_alwaysoverkill

I plan on it, either before christmas or after...donno if i wanna use em in the winter or just leave my stock in during winter months....but they look damn comfy

another option i'm considering is a 19mm ITR rear sway as opposed to going for the full-out 22mm CTR bar. the 19mm should be alittle easier on the sub-frame plus its about 46% stiffer as oppsed to the 22mm being 70% stiffer then the stock 13mm bar.

trini_1.6el

does anyone know where to get the a-spec racing subframe reinforcement kit for the EK?

I e-mailed the company asking if they ship to canada or if they have a distributor over here, but no has replied yet

Nova_Dust

Stiffer suspension helps, match at least the dampening rating to that of a CTR spec and over, and you should be fine (with Beak's kit if you like, or OEM CTR brackets).

IIRC, ITR rear sway bar is 22mm as well, and some are 23mm.

imported_kane2k

To the best of my knowledge, the CTR has an ITR rear subframe, which is stronger than an EK's. The JDM ITR bar is 23mm.

imported_alwaysoverkill

dampening i'm not concerned with since i have Tokico Illumina's and they are usually set at 3F and 4R out of 5.

its between a 19mm ITR or 22mm CTR

EDIT:
I'm now leaning towards the 19mm ITR bar, its gonna be easier on the sub-frame and is all thats needed for street use. 24mm front with a 19mm rear should be a decent set-up. gonna use a beaks kit with the 19mm too.

imported_SilverSleeper

Or get a couple of them for free...


Lucky bastid...

imported_SaYjAiBaO

ITRs are 22mm too but jdm itrs are 1mm thicker. if you're really that worried and don't mind fishing out some extra bucks. can't you put on an itr subframe anyways? i thinks thats a bit too much though lol. uhhh just go buy the aspec racing package. it comes with everything you need and you won't have to part anything together. i've seen subframe rip with beaks kit too but my mechanic tells me that will only happen if you're stupid and hit a speed bump real hard or something. why not look into a comptech sway/tie bar combo? the sway bar is adjustable and has 3 settings i think.

imported_alwaysoverkill

a couple extra bucks for a ITR sub-frame....uhhhh, a few hundred to source the metal and have it spot welded in, thats why it is a concern, i don't have a few extra hundred to spend on a new sub-frame.

there are two people selling RSB+beaks kit now, thats why i'm asking about about these two sway bars+beaks kit.

imported_GoldBadge

You'll most likely be just fine with it. Tons of people have safely run that setup for years, but there have been a few with tear out problems. It's kind of like the Omni-Power issue going on right now. Thousands sold, but a few bad apples scare people off.

trini_1.6el

anyone know of a canadian distributor that carries the a-spec-racing kit ??

imported_SMGFANDOTCOM

No offense, but why are you so hard up for going with a itr bar?

Doesn't Suspension Techniques sell a rear kit for you?

I ran the ITR bar on my 89 civic for 5 years with custom brackets and never had a problem on any spring shock combo BUT that bar isn't exactly some super sway bar or something for you to go through all this trouble.

I love doing things the hard way but if I were you I would just look for a kit bar.

Have you looked at the comptech bar?

imported_SaYjAiBaO

kit bars are way more pricy than oem bars.

trini_1.6el