imported_gatherer

ok ok ok looks like those that can't use a search feature need something clarified...

drop spindles drop knuckles it's all the same in my book (because I'm lazy)

simply but it moves the spindle higher up on the knuckle which results in a drop of the same distance the spindle was moved up by without affecting suspension travel at all (since the knuckle is the same length geometry doesn't change)

suspension techniques makes them and yes they are made for the honda civic ... you can do the same thing with the rear trailing arm as well ...

but most people will stick to the standard shorter spring method of droping a car and that adversely affects the suspension geometry.... but hey what do I know.....

lordm

well put

PULOVR

But when the wheel moves up (when a spindle is installed), that also means the tire gets closer to the top of the wheel well......so technically, you WILL lose some wheel travel, even with spindles.

imported_gatherer

yes you have a point ...

maybe I should have said shock travel then .... terminology and me never get along

dingus8

these are only effective on high ground clearance app.s liek trucks so they don't have to have a shorter spring installed to get the 6-7 inch drop because that on a truck woudl make it so it had no suspension trvel with a shorter spring...with a civic you will be lower but still have a low spring rate and all the travel of stock which defeats teh purpose...you would bouce adn scrap and handle liek crap becaue of the poor dampened stock shock and low spring rate spring....it is completely unpractackle....

punkindrublic

or to eliminate all of the problems shown in this thread just get a sport spring...

imported_loudsubz

too much

sometimes i think my h&r sports are a little low in the front

punkindrublic

sport springs are never to low... did you ever see my car when it had race springs all around? that was to low... although i hardly ever scraped which is a bonus

imported_jj2ii3344

What Brand of springs would provide a 1.5" or 1.6" drop???

cee

H&R, Neuspeed, Eibach

imported_jj2ii3344

Thanks Cee!! I thought Eibach offers sportlines at 1.8"?? What models come with 1.6" drop??

imported_Joker

y does everyonewant such a slight drop?, 1.5 inches is too high IMO

bbarbulo

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Joker, the days of riding low are out... the core of our sport is growing up and learning that looks don't always follow function, and that function is far more kickass than plain looks. As a result, there is a movement towards learning and understanding more about the functionality of a car and using that as a starting point for improving the basics towards what we truly need for our personal purpose. I'm surprised that it's taken this long for ppl to figure out that big rims and low drops are NOT ideal daily setups. The ppl at the forefront of the movement (like JookSingKid) are true pioneers for having looked the other way when everyone was buying 17 and 18 inch rims and fart can exhausts and body kits... they were out picking up bolstered seats, lighweight rims, OEM lenses, and swaps. That's just my opinion anyways.... the sport has reached a level or maturity, and there will be no more or very little growth in the future... in 5-8 years, you prolly won't even find anyone modding their cars in this fashion anyways.

dingus8

^^exactly...I've been banging my head against a wall tryign to get through to people over the years and it seems now that peoepl are getting older and actually learngi instead of gettign the lowest sprign on stock shocks like a kid that doesnt' knwo shti would do....when your into the "sport" for so long you learn and progress.....I mean when I first came to this site it was pretty brutal I was pretty much hated for actually giving the write advise nto jsut what peoepl wanted to hear liek stuff abotu shock dampening and it's importance...yada yada.....but now there are soem dudes that have saw the light and actually know not jsut kids writtign useless info.....the whole sport is gogin down hill and as you said noone will be modding there cars for awhile....it's liekt he progress from the 30's to the late 60's....in the early years peoepl modded to maek their cars better but the auto makers caught on and by the late 60's cars where street demons...you could go buy factory race cars off the showroom floor....there was a big bang now there will be a big low.....then when we are old farts douche bag kids will be modding there cars again..

imported_gatherer

you have a point however when I do it I will be changing the springs to a higher rate ....but the springs I get will be custom and they will not drop the car ....

dingus8

^^^I see ya you will need a spring with liek stock ride height but a high rate to it..I'd liek to see how this setup is cause it's definatly different from the mainstream...could be good or bad....good luck

imported_chinslip

What I'm looking for are short springs (1.5" drop) none adjustable with short shocks to match. DOES ANYONE know where to find them???????? Many sites will not give a specific drop #

thx

imported_94EG6HB

H&R has your springs...

You missed a GB for members..

Twice...

imported_Joker

im not some kid with sme shitty raactive coilovers and stock shocks btw, I dont have 17 inch rims and dont give 3 ***** for body kits its just My opinion that if your gonna go out and get a H&R OE kit then what s the point. Not sayin that lower is better buit there has to be a mix of both looks and functionality. this is just MY OPINION

imported_sketch

I agree as well, but I think a lot of that has to do with me shocks (Koni)

Anyhow, I just went from Neuspeed Race to H&R sports, I can honestly say I haven't enjoyed the handiling and ride quality like I this in a long time. Race springs were way too low and as much as you might think it improves your handling by giving you a lower center of gravity you're actually not.