The Prophet

hey guys, this is a question for everyone but mainly to marty and matt...

i am looking into my stereo system at the moment and i was wondering if u guys could help me price out my fibreglass enclosure so that i have an idea on costs...

i have the prices for the system i want but i have no idea where to start with the fibreglass stuff... none of the shops around me do it so hopefully you guys have some info for me...

thanks
Brad

scarlemthug

well having worked at a shop for a bit of time I can tell you it all varies on how complex you wanna get, if its going to be wrapped, painted (in house or at a paint shop) and mainly how many hours is gonna be needed to complete the project.

For a basic fiberglass install you can look at anywhere from $200-750. If you want a complete fiberglass trunk painted and everything your probably looking at above $1000.

What did you have in my as far as component placement, finishing and are you planning on doing any work yourself. Its nice to have a shop do it but its also not that hard to do yourself as long as you have a tablesaw, jigsaw and some other tools.

I can help you out as far as getting supplies and also doing the project.

Whiplash

tru 'nuf Brad..
all depends on how crazy ya wanno go..

like w/o equipment mine yer lookin' at over the 2G mark..
(2 piece, tons of contours, paint etc etc.)
basic glass floor and stealth the top (like vinyl say) is much less..
would need a ton more info to be able to even ballpark ya pal..

tho if ya go buy yerself a Gen 7 i could let ya have mine pretty cheap

The Prophet

thanks guys

what im looking at is this... i an running 2 12" subs, 1 1500w amp, and a cap...

i am looking for the subs mounted in the inner trunk behind the seaton an angle facing the rear, the amp in the middle and the cap under it..

i dont think i wanna do the entire trunk, but have about a foot at the very back maybe in vinyli dont know if you get the picture cause i cant explain it very well

i also would like the fg to be painted

that help any?

and im willing to do work myself if i have the guidence, cause i can basically do anything if i have a good teacher, lol

scarlemthug

Do you want the sub box to be ported or sealed?

If its ok i could you say what equipment your looking at buying.

If there is enough room in your trunk I would suggest having FG for the enclosure, amp rack and cap rack, then from the back of the front of the trunk (where it opens from) have trim pieces made of mdf that would go along the front and then down both sides to clean up the edges. You could wrap em in carpet, vinyl, leather suede etc. Pretty much thats how i have mine setup but I have 2 15's so there isnt much room for anything else.

It could be a pretty simple build to do what you want, basically build a frame that goes the whole way around the spare tire well or a bit smaller even. Then get material and FG some chopped mat or even fleece in the spare tire well and make sure it comes up to the frame you built . Then after you have trimmed up the FG and made sure all the edges are sealed I would get a piece of mdf and screw it to the frame and have it almost cover the entire spare tire piece you built except for say 12-15inches from the back. Then you can mount some MDf rings for the subs, brace em and pull fleece over the rings and FG that.

Then you would just need to build an amp rack and cap rack frame, pull fleece over it and FG that and then your basically done.

Not really hard, if you have a garage and an air gun you could hammer that trunk out pretty quickly. I can offer my assisstance but im not sure when ill be free and able to come out to hamilton.

I would call up selective sounds and see how much they quote you and I can also give you a number for another shop that can give you a good price.

Maybe if we can get me, matt, marty and yourself we could do it ourselves as a TCC ST project.

The Prophet

thats awesome chris

thanks alot

i am accually going to be running

2 Ultra Excursion Woofer 12" "ICED" Silver Die Cast Basket 700 Watts

1 SDX1500 - 1x1500 Watts Class 'D' High Current Amplifier - SOFT Touch Controls w/Remote

1 SCAP2 - 1 Farad Capacitor w/Digital Display - "ICED" Aluminum Finish to Canister




a friend of mine just got rights to sell this in canada and as far as i know there isnt much around here... his business site is www.extremeaudio.ca, thats where the stuff im getting is

scarlemthug

Suprisingly ive never heard of the stuff, is it a new mainly internet based brand?

I know that post was quite long and prolly confusing but if you understand what i was trying to say then you could basically build your enclosure yourself.

Here's an idea but with less sharp edges and more curvy.

The Prophet

ya thats sorta what im looking to do... i am just scared cause i have worked with fiberglass once and its a skill that is tough to master

swiss audio is quite big in the western states like cali and such... i have heard a few set ups with the sub below the ones im getting and they are extremely clean and hit nice and hard...

my friends business is one of the only ones with them cause they are new in ontario and i am going to be running a complete swiss setup with components and everything

lordm

brad i would for shure suggest a glass enclosure, liek marty said you imagination can go wild with this type of setup, but it also depends on how deep your pocket is feel free to call me at 416-827-2415 and we can talk over the phone. but also call the davis and deen a selective they can give u some ideas and a price but before u do that get all the geer becvause when u do custom the will need to see what they have to work with

Whiplash

meh..glass is harder than it looks
the bottom/sides is a peach..if anything is hard it's stretching, finding the right shape

shlammed

Brad, if I were you, I'd go take advantage of eD's pre-order pricing while it's still available. Check them out: www.edesignaudio.com I'm getting a 13kv.2 and nine.2 amp from them shipped for $250usd. Currently almost finished making my sealed box. But anyways, their **** is REALLY good and altough they are still offering pre-order pricing, I think everything is already shipping. Save your *** a lot of money. Their ov.2's are insano subs.

The Prophet

i have never heard of them... any other opinions on it??

scarlemthug

I have worked with eD stuff and for the money its hard to compete. Ed (Sir_Yo) has a single 12a in his trunk and its pretty darn loud for a sealed enclosure although it needs some tuning now because the box size changed.

Swiss Audio from what i have heard is mainly available in europe and they make some high end stuff. I believe they are a sister company to some other companies but i cant remember the names.

Glassing is pretty easy IMO, like marty said the hardest part is stretching the fleece over odd shapes and not having any creases. Get yourself a nice staple gun and alot of staples.

I am down to help you build it if we have somewhere closer to like sauga to work on it.

I personally need to build some MDf trim panels fro my trunk but dont have access to a jigsaw or tablesaw.

Also to anyone looking for something super unique for the sub stage I can get custom subs built to enclosure type, amp power etc etc. I can get custom cones aswell.

shlammed

Brad, go to www.icixsound.com/vb and go into the element designs section and just read all the happy customers that just received their new amps/subs...I have never seen an unhappy eD customer in my life.

scarlemthug

I have seen unhappy customers but in the end the customer is happy because eD offers a 3 year warranty on there stuff so you basically have no worries about having a bum product.

I can get basically anything eclipse, lightning audio, eD and a bunch of other companies sells.

shlammed

Sure unhappy if it blows, but the actual subs "working" please everyone...especially people on icixsound...

P.S. chris, I decided to make a sealed box first to see how it is...I don't have enough time on my hands to do a ported right now. Whats the tool called that I would used to cut out the speaker hole?? I forget but I need one.

scarlemthug

yeah, they had a problem with 1 line of there older A series speakers with the glue not bonding properly but all those subs were replaced.

As for the sealed box, im sure you will be happy with it.....my 2 15's are sealed and i wouldnt have it any other way. To cut out the circle perfect you use a router but you can use a jigsaw aswell.

IF you decide you wanna build a ported box let me know and i can help you out.

shlammed

We'll see how low it hits in the 1cu ft sealed box...shouldn't be too shabby for my hatchback but I'll let you know.

scarlemthug

to get technical a sub in a sealed enclosure will play lower than a ported one but it has less output in the lower frequencies than a sub in a ported enclosure.

go to walmart and grab 20oz of polyfill and throw that in the re and you should be good.

The Prophet

so what would you reccommend chris??

the 2 swiss audio subs that i was looking at or the eD subs??

and what eD subs are the best setup that will be able to compare to the swiss spl subs...??

and i have access to the table saws and routers down here but i know that doesnt help you much