90ls

Sure its all about the driver.

but as long as ure b16 is stock, my money is on the b20.


Again talking wont do us any good. track days is approching, we will see what happens.

civicrydah

my b16 isn't stock and i doubt that the b20 isn't either. Does anyone have times on a stock b16a in a 97 coupe, b20b in the same car, and b20bvtec in the same car too?

I have no clue, but here's my guesstimate:
B16 .........15 secs flat

B20B.........15.2 secs

B20Bvtec....14.9 secs


Again these are just guesses...not based on actual times...i have no clue about any times for these engines!!!!

imported_1sicsol

More like mid 15sir
and low 15b20...

civic_hb96

put it like this...

a stock b20 will run a 15 flat in a 6gen hatch, possibly a high 14..
a stock b16 will run about the same times in a 6gen hatch.

b20vtec you're looking more towards low 14's, high 13's

but you say these motors are in coupes so...

HAPPY

A b16 is a 6th gen coupe is just an SiR - I have never seen one hit a 15 flat stock.

90ls

A b20/vtec in a 3rd gen integra hit 13.2s.

so u do the math.. integra is a lot heavier then a civic.

Not_Fast_Enuf

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civicrydah

OK...but from what i understand, B20Bvtecs (thats the same as CRVtec's if i'm not mistaken?) are conversions or "build-ups". Each application differs just as in the LS-vtec. LS-Vtec can be a very powerful engine if made properly, and has potential of making about 180 whp. But just as in the ls-vtec, the Crvtec can also create less than 180 whp.

Please correct if i'm wrong, this is what i think...and i'm sure if its 100% accurate.


And about the crvtec...isn't there a problem with the different redline on the head compared to the block? Wouldn't that be unreliable? Juss curious.

90ls

Ls/vtec or crv/vtec. they both have to be built to hit high rpms

imported_1sicsol

This is b20bottom with b18c1 head..
Are you talking about to tegs?
He said his best was 13.5....

90ls

i was talking about T.O.Tegs , 13.2, 13.5 close enough, i was just making a point,


as for T.O.Tegs car its still not tunned and running on a chipped gsr ecu.

wait till its tunned.

HAPPY

It was his cousin that ran the 13.2 ...in a b20 hatch (no vtec)

...and I'm sure Camille will do much better than a 13.5 this summer.

90ls

i'm sure he will

imported_1sicsol

When we raced he did 13.8 and 14.1...
Car pulls+interior was stripped...

iceburg_shorty

if the B20 is non-v-tech i got my money on the b16

T.O.tegs

did someone call?

the day I raced you and ran the 13.8 it was cold out and my tires where just poop. If I hadn't stripped the interior I would have probably ran better times

anyways, new throtle body + new cams = a lot more power. add a set of m/t slicks and hello 12s ALL MOTOR

from my experience, I'd say that with similar mods the B20 should come out on top. this is with equal drivers of course.

but you never know, I've seen some B16A's making great power stock and vise versa. this argument is pointless. race and let us know what happened. K?

civic2drcoupe

civicrydah is going all out eh? BTW its a vtec build port and polished. Custom turbo
l8s

HAPPY

Bahaha - if this is your setup there isn't even going to be a race.

To make this fair you are only allowed to use 4th and 5th gear and are not allowed to shift higher than 4k RPM

civicrydah

Ok, so i think i'll just save u the hassle and hand my *** over to myself.


The engine setup alone costs more than my whole car!!!!

I think i should edge someone in my own class to race me....someone like....i dont know....(shrugs shoulders) ...HappyB16 perhaps???? B16 vs. B16? Sounds fair doesn't it?

civic_hb96

what do you have done? i'll race you, but my motor is stock