ZC with turbo? is it possible
hey guys i was wondering if i could get some advice.
i have a SOHC ZC engine in my 98 Civic si and i was wondering if it makes any sense to turbo my ZC engine, and if it was possible, and how much would i be looking to drop on this process. Or if its just beter to get either a tryp R or gsr engine just looking for some clarification and guidance, thank you. |
Is that the obd1 or obd2 ZC your talking about?
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you know what? i don't have a clue!
how would i know which it is |
A ZC is essentially a d-series. And yes, it is possible to boost it.
What are your power goals and what type of use will the car be seeing? I believe if it's a 98, it'll be OBDII, but don't quote me on that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. |
you can do anything you want with $$ ... It all comes down to what power you want to make out and how much you want to spend ...
Once you tell us that maybe you can get more advice from more members |
If its the D15b ZC vtec in the 98, it could be OBD2. If so, you got that stupid 3stage vtec motor which is not worth to modify.
Unless he converted to obd1 and got the obd1 d15b vtec, that you could turbo. |
Originally Posted by jdm ek4
(Post 1465049)
If its the D15b ZC vtec in the 98, it could be OBD2. If so, you got that stupid 3stage vtec motor which is not worth to modify
Originally Posted by MPR
(Post 1465040)
I believe if it's a 98, it'll be OBDII, but don't quote me on that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted by JDMej1
(Post 1465226)
that motor is jdm as fck. plenty of jdm fanboys would kill for that motor
i believe obdII was made universal on all vehicles starting after 95 91-95 = ODB1 a few cars(no hondas) 95= ODB1.5 (pain in the ****ing ass) 96+ = ODB2 |
Originally Posted by JDMej1
(Post 1465226)
that motor is jdm as fck. plenty of jdm fanboys would kill for that motor
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what do u mean being sarcastic?
about? |
Anyways my ZC motor is SOHC non V-tech motor
and i was told that my engine is an ODB 0 cause its a replacement for the stock engine that was in the car |
Originally Posted by ababoolall
(Post 1465270)
V-tech
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sorry my bad
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Anyways im not looking to drop a hole lot of cash on the engine, im basically looking to do either the type r or the turbo (which ever is cheaper) and more economical for me.
im not looking for a whole lot of power just basicaly be able to rip some bitches when they try to roll up. |
i'd say look into how much these jdm fanboys are willing to pay for the zc or at least basic resale value, and the cost of a good y8... if the amounts match up just swap it for a y8 cuz then you'll have v-tec and then start planning boost from there
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Originally Posted by ababoolall
(Post 1465277)
Anyways im not looking to drop a hole lot of cash on the engine, im basically looking to do either the type r or the turbo (which ever is cheaper) and more economical for me.
im not looking for a whole lot of power just basicaly be able to rip some bitches when they try to roll up. To answer your question , putting a turbo in a d series engine and doing a type r swap is somewhat the same when it comes to money... That is if you put a proper turbo with a proper tune ... A type r swap nowdays can be done for around 3500-4500 ( incl the tranny) , it all depends on how much you pay for the engine .. Then you ll be putting out around 160-170 whp and with a few bolts on you should get close to 200 whp , which is pretty decent for track purposes A good turbo kit in a d series engine should run you about 3000-4000 , that is installation , parts , tune , etc... And assuming your engine is healthy , you could be at 200 whp or more ... However you also have to keep in mind how much work you can do yourself , a lot of money goes into labour so if you are somewhat handy , you could be saving a lot of money.. Also if you can piece out a turbo kit together ( with good parts) you could be saving a lot of money If there is one thing i ve learned so far is that power doesnt come cheap , and if it does then it more than likely wont be reliable... But if there is one thing about civics are that the possibilities are endless , so its really up to you :D |
A few bolt ons wont get you to 200whp, now if you talking about at the crank, that is possible. The thing i like about d-series turboed is the amount of torque they gain but it should be done properly and tuned. I remember couple of years ago i had a friend with a d16y8 turboed and he was making 217whp and 181tq, but in the end it was close to the amount you would have spent on a type-r swap.
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OP: you may want to read through this thread: http://www.torontocivics.com/f55/tur...c-dohc-171452/
That person is in a similar situation as you and you may find so answers/info you're looking for by reading through it. Turbo d > stock type R with bolt-ons. A type R with bolt-ons, tuned, will get you in the 180whp range at best, if your engine is healthy to begin with. A healthy d on stock internals with a properly tuned turbo setup, will safely get you to 200whp, but I wouldn't go any further without upgrading the internals. The difference in costs depends on how far you want to take the turbo d motor. You will send as much money swapping in a stock 180whp type R engine and tranny as you would on a properly built turbo d that can give you 200-250whp. |
hey guys i've made up my mind
i think im gonna turbo my engine. Now the question is does anyone know what is required to prep ur engine for tubo and can anyone fill me in on turbing an engine |
^Google and search button are your friends. Take lots of time and do lots of research. The topic has been covered MANY times...
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