ZC with turbo? is it possible
05-Jul-2010, 10:53 PM
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ZC with turbo? is it possible
hey guys i was wondering if i could get some advice.
i have a SOHC ZC engine in my 98 Civic si and i was wondering if it makes any sense to turbo my ZC engine, and if it was possible, and how much would i be looking to drop on this process.
Or if its just beter to get either a tryp R or gsr engine
just looking for some clarification and guidance, thank you.
i have a SOHC ZC engine in my 98 Civic si and i was wondering if it makes any sense to turbo my ZC engine, and if it was possible, and how much would i be looking to drop on this process.
Or if its just beter to get either a tryp R or gsr engine
just looking for some clarification and guidance, thank you.
05-Jul-2010, 11:45 PM
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A ZC is essentially a d-series. And yes, it is possible to boost it.
What are your power goals and what type of use will the car be seeing?
I believe if it's a 98, it'll be OBDII, but don't quote me on that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
What are your power goals and what type of use will the car be seeing?
I believe if it's a 98, it'll be OBDII, but don't quote me on that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
06-Jul-2010, 05:31 PM
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i believe obdII was made universal on all vehicles starting after 95
06-Jul-2010, 07:43 PM
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06-Jul-2010, 10:20 PM
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Anyways im not looking to drop a hole lot of cash on the engine, im basically looking to do either the type r or the turbo (which ever is cheaper) and more economical for me.
im not looking for a whole lot of power just basicaly be able to rip some bitches when they try to roll up.
im not looking for a whole lot of power just basicaly be able to rip some bitches when they try to roll up.
06-Jul-2010, 10:47 PM
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i'd say look into how much these jdm fanboys are willing to pay for the zc or at least basic resale value, and the cost of a good y8... if the amounts match up just swap it for a y8 cuz then you'll have v-tec and then start planning boost from there
06-Jul-2010, 11:05 PM
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Anyways im not looking to drop a hole lot of cash on the engine, im basically looking to do either the type r or the turbo (which ever is cheaper) and more economical for me.
im not looking for a whole lot of power just basicaly be able to rip some bitches when they try to roll up.
im not looking for a whole lot of power just basicaly be able to rip some bitches when they try to roll up.
To answer your question , putting a turbo in a d series engine and doing a type r swap is somewhat the same when it comes to money... That is if you put a proper turbo with a proper tune ...
A type r swap nowdays can be done for around 3500-4500 ( incl the tranny) , it all depends on how much you pay for the engine .. Then you ll be putting out around 160-170 whp and with a few bolts on you should get close to 200 whp , which is pretty decent for track purposes
A good turbo kit in a d series engine should run you about 3000-4000 , that is installation , parts , tune , etc... And assuming your engine is healthy , you could be at 200 whp or more ...
However you also have to keep in mind how much work you can do yourself , a lot of money goes into labour so if you are somewhat handy , you could be saving a lot of money.. Also if you can piece out a turbo kit together ( with good parts) you could be saving a lot of money
If there is one thing i ve learned so far is that power doesnt come cheap , and if it does then it more than likely wont be reliable...
But if there is one thing about civics are that the possibilities are endless , so its really up to you
06-Jul-2010, 11:14 PM
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A few bolt ons wont get you to 200whp, now if you talking about at the crank, that is possible. The thing i like about d-series turboed is the amount of torque they gain but it should be done properly and tuned. I remember couple of years ago i had a friend with a d16y8 turboed and he was making 217whp and 181tq, but in the end it was close to the amount you would have spent on a type-r swap.
07-Jul-2010, 12:18 AM
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OP: you may want to read through this thread: http://www.torontocivics.com/f55/tur...c-dohc-171452/
That person is in a similar situation as you and you may find so answers/info you're looking for by reading through it.
Turbo d > stock type R with bolt-ons.
A type R with bolt-ons, tuned, will get you in the 180whp range at best, if your engine is healthy to begin with.
A healthy d on stock internals with a properly tuned turbo setup, will safely get you to 200whp, but I wouldn't go any further without upgrading the internals.
The difference in costs depends on how far you want to take the turbo d motor. You will send as much money swapping in a stock 180whp type R engine and tranny as you would on a properly built turbo d that can give you 200-250whp.
That person is in a similar situation as you and you may find so answers/info you're looking for by reading through it.
Turbo d > stock type R with bolt-ons.
A type R with bolt-ons, tuned, will get you in the 180whp range at best, if your engine is healthy to begin with.
A healthy d on stock internals with a properly tuned turbo setup, will safely get you to 200whp, but I wouldn't go any further without upgrading the internals.
The difference in costs depends on how far you want to take the turbo d motor. You will send as much money swapping in a stock 180whp type R engine and tranny as you would on a properly built turbo d that can give you 200-250whp.
