merge8

Hey guys,

So Ive been talking about getting a turbo, and i'm curious on how its going to be done,

Just something small on my tiny engine,
5pounds or so of boost.. i think my gains will be like 30 -40 hp...

a nice sounding BOV really is what i want ahha

i run a 95 civic CX stock engine... D15 i believe

chris_v2

How it's going to be done? By bringing it to zeeman for tuning and install

merge8

Sorry.. JCAutoworks is my Shop..

hes a good friend of mine and does good work.. so thats allright just put my cross drilled fronts in ... looks SICK!..


Im not sure just doing some research on my own.. about it.. just want to run like 3-5LBs of boost... its a small engine, just want a little turbo that has a nice BOV right.

really just for sound effects and a little extra speed haha

D.T.P

Well for small gains and quick spool should look into small turbos. If on budget, can pick up a 14b which is a talon stock turbo. Will make all the power down low upto 5k rpms depending how much boost you run. With 3-5lbs you won't get any good gains. You could run about 8-10psi on stock motor with 14b, achieve about 180-190whp. You will need: -manifold -turbo -downpipe -oil lines -coolant lines[if applicable] -wastegate[if applicable] -intercooler -piping for intercooler -bov-some injectors 440-450cc -walbro 255lph fuel pump -oil catch can-boost controller -most importantly a good tune May have forgot few little things...

merge8

I'm trying to do more research on it now..

and Im not sure what i can find with my Budget....

D15B8 is my engine right now... for the kits price its not worth turboing..

I was hoping to get something just like $500 but not sure if that exists...

im looking now into a new motor.. d16 or something then to throw a turbo on it...

I would hope to spend like 1000 on an engine, i know b16 engine online is like 2grand.. + install so yah...

with the turbo.. i wasn't looking for Huge Gains... with the low boost... i love the BOV sound.. and would love to have that on my car.. adding some HP on the way right.

D.T.P

Well as long as your motor is healthy, I don't see why you couldn't turbo it like any other d series motor. If you will swap for another d, then look into either d15b the jdm 1.5 vtec motor or the d16z6 which are practically the same except the d15b has a little more agresive cam. Otherwise the block and head are identical. You could piece together a kit for about 800$ if you pay a visit to a scrap yard and spend some time looking for good deals online. The 14b turbos go for about 150$ and the injectors, you could get the dsm 450cc for under 100$. Ofcourse people say that its not smart since turbos will be old and used and the injectors may be cloged, but that's just the risk you take when trying to cheap out. A proper turbo kit will cost you a prity penny, so its for you to decide whether you will hope for the best or have quality/reliable turbo setup. I know a member on this forum pieced together a 14b kit for quite cheap. Not sure if its up and running yet, but he will most likely be chiming in soon to share his experience. Or You could just get one of those ebay muffler tip inserts that make your car sound like you have a bov haha.

merge8

I looked at the D15B... its 550 CAD, not bad... for engine only... now im not sure how this works... on my CX i have a new transmision .. SI transmision, im not 100% sure if i can do just engine... or do i need to get the Complete Swap... the Complete comes with Power Stearing and all that.... but im not sure i want it lol

Whats your Opinion on Full swap to engine only.... what are parts i have to take into consideration that might need a replace..

D.T.P

All you need is just the motor. You can reuse everything but the computer(ecu). The transmission is direct bolt on, you can use the power steering/alternator etc of your motor. The only parts that would be suggested to replace would be: timing belt/water pump. Since its so much easier to do when the motor is out of the car. Also if you do plan on running turbo you could get a new clutch to save the headache later. Stage1 would be sufficied for your power goals

zeeman

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save your money until you can have a bigger budget.

You might be able to buy a used ebay kit for $500, but then you still need injectors and a fuel pump, chipped ecu, colder spark plugs and a tune. That right there will cost more than $500.

MiC

To the OP,

What they all said above...

Plus a new aftermarket clutch, and a good flowing exhaust system.
Also, having a lighter flywheel 12.5 lbs is good.

merge8

Ok i dont know if i mentinoned before


Its got a Nice Exhaust... Vibrant Exhaust with Highflow Cat

Its got a new cluch on it.... I believe its just Stock tho.... im not 100 Percent.. its very light... almost 90% sure its Stock

What do Aftermarket Cluches go for... Lets say Stage 1?

sirux

Its changing your clutch that costs $$$
You can buy brand new stage 1 clutch kits for like $100 on kijiji

MPR

To the original poster:

Going turbo will cost you no less than at least $1000 and that is if you know what you're doing and can do 100% of the work your self.

Remember this: fast, reliable, cheap. Pick 2.

You can turbo what you have and get some decent reliable power. Or you could swap in a b-series and get the same result.

What you need to do is make a list of EVERYTHING you will need to turbo your stock engine and price it all out. That will give you a ball park. If you can't do some/any of the work your self, then you need to factor in labour costs for getting the work done at a shop.

If you really don't have the budget for it, then I suggest you save up first.

merge8

Yes ive 90% decited that im swaping to a D15B Engine first... Cheap and reliable is good for me... Really... with lets say the engine + current mods+ Small amount of boost...im almost at 200....

think about the Roads.. this is a Road Car... and really the power cant be applied full force...

really i hate to say it but the purpos of the turbo is to have the nice sound ... the bov.. ect ect...

i absolutly love the sound of it... and along the way... im going to have 230% of stock HP.. witch is crazzy!!

im going to talk to my Mechanic... and asking about the swap and the labor to put the new engine in...

My cars got no power stearing no ac nothing.. so the swap shouldnt be that hard.

rick10

i highly doubt you can get 200 whp with a small turbe and a d15b...

I been do research and help from some members here .. To get 200 whp is going to cost a lot more than what you want to spend...

I m actually looking into buying a gsr or type r engine instead of going turbo.. That is if i can get a new job and save up some money LOL

MPR

We can tell you the most sensible thing to do, but ultimately it's your car and your decision.

If you want to make your car quicker, for what it will cost you to swap a d15b and then turbo it, you're better off swapping in a b-series. If you know where to look, you can find a b16 for dirt cheap. They have good power to begin with (jdm b16 are 170hp, which is more than you can expect from a low-boosted d15b) and they respond well to basic bolt-on mods. Down the road when you've saved up enough, you can boost the b16 and get more than 200whp, reliably.

Just so you know, external bov's are illegal and it is possible if a cop hears it they can fine you and seize your car (no joke). So you shouldn't be so eager to make your car go pssssht.

We're lucky our MR2's bov (car in sig) is not super loud and we can keep it silent if we want, thanks to a rather large turbo that doesn't really wake up until 3500-4000rpm.

You just have to think about what you really want, what each option will cost you and what makes the most sense.

D.T.P

op: go on Turbo D16 • Index page a lot of info there.

merge8

Wow I didn't know the can seize your car for that... Whats the reason?
whats wrong with a BOV?

MPR

It has to do with emission and that your car no longer complies with emissions regulations because the external bov's dump air from your engine to atmosphere instead of it being re-circulated back into the engine. (which is partly why re-circulating bov's are legal and used on factory turbo'd engines).

Technically there is nothing wrong with an external bov when it comes to emissions because the air being vented has not even entered the engine yet therefore it's just....air.

But they don't care. From their point of view it is illegal and thats all that matters, sadly.

Tyson09

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i wonder if that would hold up in court? like if you acutally went to fight it.