Honda A/B/B20/C/D/E/F... Series
19-May-2008, 09:50 PM
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Honda A/B/B20/C/D/E/F... Series
Whats up people, i have a question for everyone, it may be a dumb question.. but im sure alot of people have thought the same..
We all know that Honda has different series of motors, i have a 1995 civic
im just curious to know, that if the time ever comes that my motor dies, i want to know which series would be able to fit under the hood..
I already know the basic series which alot of people already have.. ex B-Series
i know that they fit under the hood no prob..
This is IMO what i would assume would fit under the hood of my car..
B - Series
D - Series
H - Series
K - Series
Now i am not sure if these series can fit, or would we even want to bother with them?.
C - Series
F - Series
G - Series
L - Series
N - Series
R - Series
J - Series
Thanks in advance
We all know that Honda has different series of motors, i have a 1995 civic
im just curious to know, that if the time ever comes that my motor dies, i want to know which series would be able to fit under the hood..
I already know the basic series which alot of people already have.. ex B-Series
i know that they fit under the hood no prob..
This is IMO what i would assume would fit under the hood of my car..
B - Series
D - Series
H - Series
K - Series
Now i am not sure if these series can fit, or would we even want to bother with them?.
C - Series
F - Series
G - Series
L - Series
N - Series
R - Series
J - Series
Thanks in advance
20-May-2008, 06:20 AM
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its not so much thats its a dumb question, its just that the info you are looking for is easily found using simple search websites such as yahoo or google.
Your also thinking way to far ahead...
anyways
F series does fit... there is a company in Cali that makes an adaptor kit to swap this motor in a civic fairly easy.
Your also thinking way to far ahead...
anyways
F series does fit... there is a company in Cali that makes an adaptor kit to swap this motor in a civic fairly easy.
20-May-2008, 11:55 AM
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its not so much thats its a dumb question, its just that the info you are looking for is easily found using simple search websites such as yahoo or google.
Your also thinking way to far ahead...
anyways
F series does fit... there is a company in Cali that makes an adaptor kit to swap this motor in a civic fairly easy.
Your also thinking way to far ahead...
anyways
F series does fit... there is a company in Cali that makes an adaptor kit to swap this motor in a civic fairly easy.
Hmm alright fair enough, thanks...
Well im assuming out of all those series.. that F would be the better choice...for hp and torque.. And if not F then K... but im assuming thats a $5000 motor swap.. just for the motor?..
I also heard that the H22 are VERY front heavy, so any little noise or whatnot u have to check it out..
sorry with all these questions guys, i just wanna make sure that if my engine or anyone else's engine ever goes we have something in mind on what i want to do for a swap.. the only reason im leaning more towards the F and K series is that those certain series have a basis of 200HP..
But i do know that the F20C is rear wheel drive, and costs alot more $$$... probably not even worth doing lol
20-May-2008, 12:23 PM
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It features a front-mid-engine, rear wheel drive layout with power being delivered by a 1,997 cc (122 cu in)F20C inline 4 cylinder DOHC-VTEC engine producing 240 hp (179 kW) at 8,300 rpm and 153 ft·lbf (207 N·m) at 7,500 rpm,
the other F series are mostly for the accords, which are.. just plain slow.. lol
20-May-2008, 12:29 PM
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the s2k f swap in your eg will require a whole lot custom fab work to the chassy/drivetrain and will be very expensive. for a lesser amount.....i would go K hands down.
whats ur budget anyway?
whats ur budget anyway?
20-May-2008, 12:39 PM
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haha i figured, im better off buying a big block with the money i would invest with that lol
just to clarify.. a 1995 honda civic coupe si is classified as an EG?..
well my budget is $4000, but i know if i put in another 2G's i can get a decent K20
Like i said im going for @ least 200HP to the WHEELS , & so far the only K20's that offer what i want is
K20A
K20Z1
K23A1 - But i do not think it would fit
20-May-2008, 12:43 PM
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its not so much thats its a dumb question, its just that the info you are looking for is easily found using simple search websites such as yahoo or google.
Your also thinking way to far ahead...
anyways
F series does fit... there is a company in Cali that makes an adaptor kit to swap this motor in a civic fairly easy.
Your also thinking way to far ahead...
anyways
F series does fit... there is a company in Cali that makes an adaptor kit to swap this motor in a civic fairly easy.
my bad
I think the s2000 engine is a waste of time and money into a civic
20-May-2008, 01:05 PM
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B20 isnt fast enough for me..
20-May-2008, 02:02 PM
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You think a k swap will only be 6g. I heard that before and then in the end it will end up being close to 10g I bet or at least 8.
For your price.. I dont think your going to get anything faster then an b20 vtec
20-May-2008, 02:41 PM
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$4000 or $6000 dollars will be hard to get a 200whp swap, all done up and ready for the road, tuned and running like a champ. That is doable if you do all the swap and build work plus tuning yourself. And even then, depending on new or used parts, where you buy them, name brand or not, the budget is tight.
A fast car is high speed; where a quick car is about 1/4 mile and launch. Then you have "fun" car which handles and drives like no ordinary Civic. To make your car go quicker, cut down metal dead weight is another option, too.
You have a goal, but I am not sure if you have the right objectives to get you there. What do you do with your car usually? Daily driver only or is it also a weekend racer? Race only or what? I used to dream about 200whp NA/300whp FI and until I started spending money I realize that no budget is ever realistic. And building a motor is always more costly (including the cost of your car) than buying a turn-key modified vehicle of the same chassis and condition. People say it is fun in the engine building phase, I think it is fun for those who build it - spending the time doing what you like and getting paid. But at the end of the day, we (as consumers) spend the money for a faster and quicker car and 9 out of the 10, will never be satisfied and wanting more.
An engine won't die for no reason, if you keep the maintenance done properly, it is not easy to trash one. An engine swap is only worth the effort if the repair cost is not realistic or if a good deal comes along and you just can't pass it up. For 200whp goal, I say you spend $6000 on your current engine and boost it and really spend the money to build it from ground up and tune it right. You will get way more than 200whp (and more than 200wtq, too - which a lot of these 200whp engine can't get you in stock form, or even modified) and that will guarantee put a smile on your face.
If I can do it all over again (for all the money I have spend on the engine alone), I would definitely boost it and build it from ground up. The horsepower and torque is so great that a lot of these NA engine cannot compare. Of course, I still like NA engine very much, and NA tuning is a very expensive tuning unless you race and are being sponsored (of course, FI ain't cheap either).
Bottom line, give your blue plan another review and speak to owners who have done these swaps and ask for a shot-gun ride.
Good luck.
A fast car is high speed; where a quick car is about 1/4 mile and launch. Then you have "fun" car which handles and drives like no ordinary Civic. To make your car go quicker, cut down metal dead weight is another option, too.
You have a goal, but I am not sure if you have the right objectives to get you there. What do you do with your car usually? Daily driver only or is it also a weekend racer? Race only or what? I used to dream about 200whp NA/300whp FI and until I started spending money I realize that no budget is ever realistic. And building a motor is always more costly (including the cost of your car) than buying a turn-key modified vehicle of the same chassis and condition. People say it is fun in the engine building phase, I think it is fun for those who build it - spending the time doing what you like and getting paid. But at the end of the day, we (as consumers) spend the money for a faster and quicker car and 9 out of the 10, will never be satisfied and wanting more.
An engine won't die for no reason, if you keep the maintenance done properly, it is not easy to trash one. An engine swap is only worth the effort if the repair cost is not realistic or if a good deal comes along and you just can't pass it up. For 200whp goal, I say you spend $6000 on your current engine and boost it and really spend the money to build it from ground up and tune it right. You will get way more than 200whp (and more than 200wtq, too - which a lot of these 200whp engine can't get you in stock form, or even modified) and that will guarantee put a smile on your face.
If I can do it all over again (for all the money I have spend on the engine alone), I would definitely boost it and build it from ground up. The horsepower and torque is so great that a lot of these NA engine cannot compare. Of course, I still like NA engine very much, and NA tuning is a very expensive tuning unless you race and are being sponsored (of course, FI ain't cheap either).
Bottom line, give your blue plan another review and speak to owners who have done these swaps and ask for a shot-gun ride.
Good luck.
20-May-2008, 04:57 PM
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b20 vtec isn't fast enough for you? you do know its cheap compared to a k and only has a little less power.
You think a k swap will only be 6g. I heard that before and then in the end it will end up being close to 10g I bet or at least 8.
For your price.. I dont think your going to get anything faster then an b20 vtec
You think a k swap will only be 6g. I heard that before and then in the end it will end up being close to 10g I bet or at least 8.
For your price.. I dont think your going to get anything faster then an b20 vtec
No, it is not. lol
But i was quoted for a
K20A
15,000 Miles
Motor
Transmission 6SPD LSD Manual
Engine Wiring Harness
All required Cables
ECU
Distributor
Throttle Body
Injectors
Fuel Rail
Intake Manifold
Exhaust Manifold
Alternator
A/C
Power Steering Pump
Most Brackets and Sensors
Intermediate Mid Shaft
$5,695
And obvously i will do small changes before i put the motor in.. timing belt, water pump, fly wheel, clutch.. etc etc.. & i know that will cost more than $6000.. but thats a given if you want performance, just like u said.
$4000 or $6000 dollars will be hard to get a 200whp swap, all done up and ready for the road, tuned and running like a champ. That is doable if you do all the swap and build work plus tuning yourself. And even then, depending on new or used parts, where you buy them, name brand or not, the budget is tight.
A fast car is high speed; where a quick car is about 1/4 mile and launch. Then you have "fun" car which handles and drives like no ordinary Civic. To make your car go quicker, cut down metal dead weight is another option, too.
You have a goal, but I am not sure if you have the right objectives to get you there. What do you do with your car usually? Daily driver only or is it also a weekend racer? Race only or what? I used to dream about 200whp NA/300whp FI and until I started spending money I realize that no budget is ever realistic. And building a motor is always more costly (including the cost of your car) than buying a turn-key modified vehicle of the same chassis and condition. People say it is fun in the engine building phase, I think it is fun for those who build it - spending the time doing what you like and getting paid. But at the end of the day, we (as consumers) spend the money for a faster and quicker car and 9 out of the 10, will never be satisfied and wanting more.
An engine won't die for no reason, if you keep the maintenance done properly, it is not easy to trash one. An engine swap is only worth the effort if the repair cost is not realistic or if a good deal comes along and you just can't pass it up. For 200whp goal, I say you spend $6000 on your current engine and boost it and really spend the money to build it from ground up and tune it right. You will get way more than 200whp (and more than 200wtq, too - which a lot of these 200whp engine can't get you in stock form, or even modified) and that will guarantee put a smile on your face.
If I can do it all over again (for all the money I have spend on the engine alone), I would definitely boost it and build it from ground up. The horsepower and torque is so great that a lot of these NA engine cannot compare. Of course, I still like NA engine very much, and NA tuning is a very expensive tuning unless you race and are being sponsored (of course, FI ain't cheap either).
Bottom line, give your blue plan another review and speak to owners who have done these swaps and ask for a shot-gun ride.
Good luck.
A fast car is high speed; where a quick car is about 1/4 mile and launch. Then you have "fun" car which handles and drives like no ordinary Civic. To make your car go quicker, cut down metal dead weight is another option, too.
You have a goal, but I am not sure if you have the right objectives to get you there. What do you do with your car usually? Daily driver only or is it also a weekend racer? Race only or what? I used to dream about 200whp NA/300whp FI and until I started spending money I realize that no budget is ever realistic. And building a motor is always more costly (including the cost of your car) than buying a turn-key modified vehicle of the same chassis and condition. People say it is fun in the engine building phase, I think it is fun for those who build it - spending the time doing what you like and getting paid. But at the end of the day, we (as consumers) spend the money for a faster and quicker car and 9 out of the 10, will never be satisfied and wanting more.
An engine won't die for no reason, if you keep the maintenance done properly, it is not easy to trash one. An engine swap is only worth the effort if the repair cost is not realistic or if a good deal comes along and you just can't pass it up. For 200whp goal, I say you spend $6000 on your current engine and boost it and really spend the money to build it from ground up and tune it right. You will get way more than 200whp (and more than 200wtq, too - which a lot of these 200whp engine can't get you in stock form, or even modified) and that will guarantee put a smile on your face.
If I can do it all over again (for all the money I have spend on the engine alone), I would definitely boost it and build it from ground up. The horsepower and torque is so great that a lot of these NA engine cannot compare. Of course, I still like NA engine very much, and NA tuning is a very expensive tuning unless you race and are being sponsored (of course, FI ain't cheap either).
Bottom line, give your blue plan another review and speak to owners who have done these swaps and ask for a shot-gun ride.
Good luck.
Well i will be doing the swap myself, i have all the equipment.. tuning might be an issue b/c ive never tuned before..
This is just gonna be a daily driver, no desire to race.. ive gotten my fair share of license suspensions & tickets.. & now with all these new regulations about loosing your car.. bahh not worth racing, just enjoyment.
& yes i totally agree that an engine won't die for any reason, if you keep the maintenance done properly.. which i intend on doing.. Thats why im curious to know that IF that ever happens i have my research done.
well Nova.. i have a 95 civic si coupe.. i just hit 200,000 Kilometers.. even if i was to boost this motor, i dont think it would be able to last maybe a few months or so?.
Ive never built a motor from scratch so im not sure about its durability, or what exactly is done..
Dont get me wrong ive driven a B16.. a B16 w/turbo.. & a B18... So i know what they are capable of.. then again tuning differs.... i guess im too used to the Big Blocks lol..
Stupid question but what does FI stand for?? lost me on that one..
& yes szuberi that looks pretty dirtyyyy.. those are in the new civics right??
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