HID.... does it matter?
14-Apr-2007, 06:16 AM
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HID.... does it matter?
Hey guys,
Im thinking about getting some hids this summer. I have denji angeleye projectors on my car but im considering going back to a more stock look. Possibly going for some eg6 headlights with the oem clear corners. Fitment is better and the two blend together better aswell. But of course this all depends on the out put of HIDs on stock lights compared to the out put on my denji projectors...
is it ok to put HIDs on none projector headlights?
Would i be better off putting them on the denji lights?
Has anyone done this on an eg?
anyone got pics?
Im thinking about getting some hids this summer. I have denji angeleye projectors on my car but im considering going back to a more stock look. Possibly going for some eg6 headlights with the oem clear corners. Fitment is better and the two blend together better aswell. But of course this all depends on the out put of HIDs on stock lights compared to the out put on my denji projectors...
is it ok to put HIDs on none projector headlights?
Would i be better off putting them on the denji lights?
Has anyone done this on an eg?
anyone got pics?
14-Apr-2007, 07:07 AM
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HIDs are designed for projectors and not reflectors. HIDs in your fluted stock eg headlamps will be a total disaster.....still people will tell you...do it but the right way to put HIDs is to put them in a projector housing.
14-Apr-2007, 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by szuberi
HIDs are designed for projectors and not reflectors. HIDs in your fluted stock eg headlamps will be a total disaster.....still people will tell you...do it but the right way to put HIDs is to put them in a projector housing.
HIDs are designed for projectors and not reflectors. HIDs in your fluted stock eg headlamps will be a total disaster.....still people will tell you...do it but the right way to put HIDs is to put them in a projector housing.
Since when? When the escalade came out they didnt have projectors. The Projector give its like cut clean look but it longer beam I believe.. somebody should chime in on this. but you dont need projectors to have HID's
14-Apr-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by truluder
Since when? When the escalade came out they didnt have projectors. The Projector give its like cut clean look but it longer beam I believe.. somebody should chime in on this. but you dont need projectors to have HID's
Since when? When the escalade came out they didnt have projectors. The Projector give its like cut clean look but it longer beam I believe.. somebody should chime in on this. but you dont need projectors to have HID's
today....you perhaps wont see any model out there with oem hid's in a non projector housing. so hid's in a stock civic housing will give u mad glare that looks totally ghetto imo.
having said that....the aftermkt kits will always be the shizzle since they r cheap and easily available.
14-Apr-2007, 12:57 PM
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well then in that case im going to stay with my projectors just because the car is daily driven and i don't want to start pissing people off....
but another question is couldn't i just remove the projector from my denji lights and retro fit them to stock headlights? I know alot of people retro fit projectors from other cars but wouldn't this be a cheaper alternative to that which still gives better light out put then just using stock headlights?
but another question is couldn't i just remove the projector from my denji lights and retro fit them to stock headlights? I know alot of people retro fit projectors from other cars but wouldn't this be a cheaper alternative to that which still gives better light out put then just using stock headlights?
14-Apr-2007, 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by JDMman
but another question is couldn't i just remove the projector from my denji lights and retro fit them to stock headlights? I know alot of people retro fit projectors from other cars but wouldn't this be a cheaper alternative to that which still gives better light out put then just using stock headlights?
but another question is couldn't i just remove the projector from my denji lights and retro fit them to stock headlights? I know alot of people retro fit projectors from other cars but wouldn't this be a cheaper alternative to that which still gives better light out put then just using stock headlights?
this is a much easier project that doing an all out retrofit since your lamps already have the hole and the mounting brackets for the projector...u can also make custom shrouds to give yourself a unique look...
what kit to get is key....i would recommend a set of acura tsx projectors since they have the most intense output and a very wide and sharp cutoff.....but they are not cheap...you are looking at around 250 to 300 plus for a set of them alone....before getting ballasts and other stuff.
hidplanet is your best source for everything.
14-Apr-2007, 02:54 PM
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Good job on the new headlight combo. Amber corners have been lookin weird to me since day 1. How much did u find the Eg6 clear coners for? Also, if ur not doin a retro, then it wont matter, since the after market projectors suck anywaz....
14-Apr-2007, 03:25 PM
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Those clears i have on now are vision corners. I got them off the parts car i bought.
And i figured that aftermarket projectors are still better then stock reflectors. Am i not right about this?
And im not sure if i misunderstood szuberi or if he misunderstood me but what i meant was that instead of buying an oem projector to retrofit into my oem headlights couldn't i just use the projectors from my denji lights and retrofit them to my headlights as a cheaper alternative. i mean i have them and i doubt im gonna sell them for much anyways if i decide to go with an oem look.
And i know right now my projector is only for low beam and then there is a seperate one for highbeam but once i swap the projector over to the stock oem light couldn't i just buy an HID kit that supports both low and high beam?
And i figured that aftermarket projectors are still better then stock reflectors. Am i not right about this?
And im not sure if i misunderstood szuberi or if he misunderstood me but what i meant was that instead of buying an oem projector to retrofit into my oem headlights couldn't i just use the projectors from my denji lights and retrofit them to my headlights as a cheaper alternative. i mean i have them and i doubt im gonna sell them for much anyways if i decide to go with an oem look.
And i know right now my projector is only for low beam and then there is a seperate one for highbeam but once i swap the projector over to the stock oem light couldn't i just buy an HID kit that supports both low and high beam?
14-Apr-2007, 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by JDMman
Those clears i have on now are vision corners. I got them off the parts car i bought.
And i figured that aftermarket projectors are still better then stock reflectors. Am i not right about this?
And im not sure if i misunderstood szuberi or if he misunderstood me but what i meant was that instead of buying an oem projector to retrofit into my oem headlights couldn't i just use the projectors from my denji lights and retrofit them to my headlights as a cheaper alternative. i mean i have them and i doubt im gonna sell them for much anyways if i decide to go with an oem look.
And i know right now my projector is only for low beam and then there is a seperate one for highbeam but once i swap the projector over to the stock oem light couldn't i just buy an HID kit that supports both low and high beam?
Those clears i have on now are vision corners. I got them off the parts car i bought.
And i figured that aftermarket projectors are still better then stock reflectors. Am i not right about this?
And im not sure if i misunderstood szuberi or if he misunderstood me but what i meant was that instead of buying an oem projector to retrofit into my oem headlights couldn't i just use the projectors from my denji lights and retrofit them to my headlights as a cheaper alternative. i mean i have them and i doubt im gonna sell them for much anyways if i decide to go with an oem look.
And i know right now my projector is only for low beam and then there is a seperate one for highbeam but once i swap the projector over to the stock oem light couldn't i just buy an HID kit that supports both low and high beam?
Something along the lines of these types of lens
I beleive they come in a style thats OEM chrome with just a clear lense.
14-Apr-2007, 03:46 PM
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if your denji projectors with an aftermarket hid kit can give you a cutoff and intensity as in the following pic......then sure do it....but if bet ya it wont. oem projectors and the aftermarket stuff is a world apart.
15-Apr-2007, 01:28 AM
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why doesnt the cut off line go straight accross? why does it have that notch in the middle? Is it because the car isn't perfectly straight with the wall or something? or because the left side should be lower because of traffic on that side?? i don't know im just guessing here
15-Apr-2007, 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by JDMman
why doesnt the cut off line go straight accross? why does it have that notch in the middle? Is it because the car isn't perfectly straight with the wall or something? or because the left side should be lower because of traffic on that side?? i don't know im just guessing here
why doesnt the cut off line go straight accross? why does it have that notch in the middle? Is it because the car isn't perfectly straight with the wall or something? or because the left side should be lower because of traffic on that side?? i don't know im just guessing here
15-Apr-2007, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by The Prophet
normally the cars drivers side headlight is aimed slightly down... not sure if thats why that one looks that way but normally thats why
normally the cars drivers side headlight is aimed slightly down... not sure if thats why that one looks that way but normally thats why
15-Apr-2007, 06:45 PM
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lol no way you get a beam pattern like that with the denji projectors. that picture is a retrofitted hid housing. hids in halogen projector sucks. personally i think the only good projector out there is the tyc 1 piece for the 92-95 civics. i've seen hids in those and it's not bad but no where near a retro fit. there's still hot spots all over the place. denji is only good for a retro because u can still keep your halogen high beams. a lot of projectors aren't meant for hids. what ends up happening is that you melt the mirror itself and your beam pattern/output will suffer even more.
16-Apr-2007, 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by SaYjAiBaO
lol no way you get a beam pattern like that with the denji projectors. that picture is a retrofitted hid housing. hids in halogen projector sucks. personally i think the only good projector out there is the tyc 1 piece for the 92-95 civics. i've seen hids in those and it's not bad but no where near a retro fit. there's still hot spots all over the place. denji is only good for a retro because u can still keep your halogen high beams. a lot of projectors aren't meant for hids. what ends up happening is that you melt the mirror itself and your beam pattern/output will suffer even more.
lol no way you get a beam pattern like that with the denji projectors. that picture is a retrofitted hid housing. hids in halogen projector sucks. personally i think the only good projector out there is the tyc 1 piece for the 92-95 civics. i've seen hids in those and it's not bad but no where near a retro fit. there's still hot spots all over the place. denji is only good for a retro because u can still keep your halogen high beams. a lot of projectors aren't meant for hids. what ends up happening is that you melt the mirror itself and your beam pattern/output will suffer even more.
16-Apr-2007, 04:41 PM
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hid chrome peeling...
why would the chrome peel if theres no heat coming out of the hid bulbs?? doesnt make sence...as for the hids in denji projectors, its possible for that same cutoff, my hids have the exact same cutoff no different than that picture and there aftermarket projector headlights...there amazing, trust me dont listen to what other ppl have to say, buy the hid kit and throw them into ur projectors (y) if you like what you see keep them, just adjust them properly and ull be fine, if u throw hids in a stock housing your going 2 get alot of glare and alot of ppl high beaming you from it, not worth it...just my 2 cents...
16-Apr-2007, 09:51 PM
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i never said denji's don't have a nice cut off but the beam pattern sucks *****. they project 2 concentrated beams with tons of hot spots. i rather have a crappy cutoff and be able to light up the whole ground then have a nice cutoff that's restricting the output.
are you kidding about no heat coming from hid bulbs? hid bulbs are much hotter than halogen. i accidently placed my bulb on my splash guard while it was on when i was installing it and within seconds it started to melt the plastic. i don't know about the chrome peeling because i have tyc clear reflectors and it hasn't peeled so far.
are you kidding about no heat coming from hid bulbs? hid bulbs are much hotter than halogen. i accidently placed my bulb on my splash guard while it was on when i was installing it and within seconds it started to melt the plastic. i don't know about the chrome peeling because i have tyc clear reflectors and it hasn't peeled so far.
16-Apr-2007, 09:58 PM
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it's a proven fact that hids run cooler than regular halogen bulbs...as for the hot spots..i dont have any...my projectors light up the floor 100% alot better than stock also...so yah...depends what you have...as for hids like i said they run cooler than regular halogens i know for a fact cuz before i had hids in the winter the ice would melt off my headlights...now with hids this winter the ice didnt melt at all...
