imported_Bruce Fee

does anyone know if a Sikh is allowed to carry his dagger in public, yet if a non-sikh were to have the same dagger, they would be charged?

i'm interested not for the sikhs, but for the reason of starting a religion of ninjitsu that states i must carry a katana at all times and i can only draw it if i've been dishonoured and must decapitate someone... kind of like they have to draw blood.

szuberi

why cant you be normal bruce..hahaha...ninjitsu religion..lol

Notorious

lol, ninjitsu

imported_Bruce Fee

what's abnormal about wanting to carry around a katana?

unless of course you mean sikh's are also abnormal...

Nova_Dust

A 12" katana is a good start.

VTEC_Thunder

I love katana's, would be cool to carry one around....i've got a few at home collecting dust...ppl at work may look at you funny....but thats when you un-shieth your blade and with a quick flick their head falls to the ground and you wipe off your weapon and reshieth it, and calmly walk away... Then no one will look at you funny.

LOL....ninjitsu

imported_Bruce Fee

it is my new faith.

the code of the ninja.

whenever i'm unclear about something, i'll make it up and put it in a book. maybe one day it'll be called the new testament 3000 by a third messiah/prophet.

SilverCRXSi

I think they "are" allowed to carry them, but they have to be in the sheath and I think hidden. If I remember correctly they can only have it out in the open during special ceremonies. From what I understand they had to do a lot to have them allowed.
And in their religion they're not even allowed to bring them out unless its to save a life or something. I'm not Sikh so I may be wrong, but ya its pretty strict.

I don't think carrying a katana blade would be allowed. Although if you were, I think I may have to convert. But I want to wear armour like in Batman Begins when Batman has to do his ninja trials.

imported_Shazza

NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

BOND007

I believe the ceremonial dagger (Kirpan) is only worn during certain times ..

BOND007

"Typically made from iron, kirpans range in blade size from 3 inches to over 3 feet and Sikhs in the west wear kirpans of about 3.5 inch blade size. Most Sikhs wear the kirpan under their clothes and most people observing a random Sikh would not be aware that they were carrying a kirpan. To the Sikhs, it is a highly important religious symbol; it is rarely used as a weapon.

Sikhs often protest the characterisation of the Kirpan as a weapon. Traditionally, a Sikh should never use the Kirpan in anger or for a malicious attack. However, a Sikh may use it in self-defence or to protect a person in need. Some Sikhs choose to learn the art of Gatka. This is a martial art devised by the Sikh Gurus that uses circular movements to effectively swing a kirpan.

The requirement that baptised Sikhs wear the kirpan has caused problems for believers in many areas, especially where the custom clashes with local laws against carrying weapons. In cases where safety regulations conflict with wearing the kirpan, such as boarding an airplane or entering a prison, Sikhs reluctantly comply with authorities. Some regulations allow the kirpan under certain restrictions; for example, rules in some California schools require that the kirpan be blunted and riveted into a sheath. This prevents any possible use of the kirpan as a weapon, but still allows it as a physical symbol of faith."

2006SiCivic

^^ You forgot the quotes.

BOND007

IS THAT BETTER FOR YA ...

imported_truluder

im sikh and i will tell u guys later on tonite....and yes they are suppose to have them if they are baptisted

civicnation

its not a weapon, just a religious symbol.
i myself am not baptized, nor do i know any people that are baptized sikhs, but the kirpan is to be worn underneath the clothes and is never used. Even the symbolic meaning of using it in self defense or to protect people in need doesn't bear any relevance today.

imported_Team Rukus

a kirpan is worn 24/7 365 a year.
it is not ceremonial or anything. its part of the religion. in canada you are allowed to wear a kirpan if you have the other 6 religious accompanying it (turban, kadda, etcc). Not every sikh person caries one only the baptized ones because they have devoted their lives to following the religion. No kirpan in Canadian history has been ever used to harm a person. The reason a kirpan existed was back in India sikh's were considered warriors when the invaders attacked. The kirpan symbolically states that "we are always ready" meaning in times of need they are ready to serve.

szuberi

good info on the kirapn in this thread but i have a question....does being baptized mean that you must follow every religious requirement...this may include not shaving you body hair, wearing a turban etc.

i ask this cuz one of my colleagues at work has a beard (he does not shave his hair...but he does trim)..he wears a turban but he does not carry a kirpan.

civicnation

Ssome sikhs that are not baptized still choose to wear turbans or trim body hair. This also explains why he doesn't carry a kirpan. If a Sikh is baptized, he/she is required to follow every religious requirement.

imported_nnniiiccckkk007

imported_Team Rukus

this means your colleague is not baptized.
and they dont follow the religion to the full extent.