More cars then girlfriends?
11-Feb-2005, 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
actually technically 1/0 is higher in ration than 60/3
60/3 = 20 cars per girl
1/0 = infinity cars per girl
LOL
actually technically 1/0 is higher in ration than 60/3
60/3 = 20 cars per girl
1/0 = infinity cars per girl
LOL
1/0 is just undefined
also, if we were to use your logic, something like 6/0 would win, because 6/x as x->0 approaches infinity at a higher rate than 1/x
11-Feb-2005, 03:07 PM
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true enough ERTW... for layman purposes tho, its' close enough 
Kieran wins 
ok now... theoretical question then for you... if lim a/x (where a is a natural number) as x -> 0 is infinity ... and you say a/0 is undefined... tell me... exactly what IS the definition of infinity?? to me (in my limited mental capacity) infinity = undefined
perhaps mathematically they differ, and if so... how? I mean I can't add, subtract, divide, or differentiate infinity? so it's not like it has a mathematical definition... or maybe my social science math < engineering math??
Kieran wins ok now... theoretical question then for you... if lim a/x (where a is a natural number) as x -> 0 is infinity ... and you say a/0 is undefined... tell me... exactly what IS the definition of infinity?? to me (in my limited mental capacity) infinity = undefined
perhaps mathematically they differ, and if so... how? I mean I can't add, subtract, divide, or differentiate infinity? so it's not like it has a mathematical definition... or maybe my social science math < engineering math??
11-Feb-2005, 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by ERTW
no, 1/0 does not equal infinity, the limit of 1/x as x->0 is infinity
1/0 is just undefined
also, if we were to use your logic, something like 6/0 would win, because 6/x as x->0 approaches infinity at a higher rate than 1/x
no, 1/0 does not equal infinity, the limit of 1/x as x->0 is infinity
1/0 is just undefined
also, if we were to use your logic, something like 6/0 would win, because 6/x as x->0 approaches infinity at a higher rate than 1/x
11-Feb-2005, 03:09 PM
#67
hmm; this is what I found on google re: mathematical infinity definition:
In mathematics, infinity is the conceptual expression of such a "numberless" number. It is often symbolized by the lemniscate (also known as the lemniscate of Bernoulli), which looks something like the numeral 8 written sideways (). This symbol for infinity was first used in the 1600s by the mathematician John Wallis.
Infinity can be defined as the limit of 1/x as x approaches zero. Sometimes people say that 1/0 is equal to infinity, but technically, division by zero is not defined. Another notion is that infinity is a quantity x such that x + 1 = x. The idea is that the quantity is so large (either positive or negative) that increasing its value by 1 does not change it.
In mathematics, infinity is the conceptual expression of such a "numberless" number. It is often symbolized by the lemniscate (also known as the lemniscate of Bernoulli), which looks something like the numeral 8 written sideways (). This symbol for infinity was first used in the 1600s by the mathematician John Wallis.
Infinity can be defined as the limit of 1/x as x approaches zero. Sometimes people say that 1/0 is equal to infinity, but technically, division by zero is not defined. Another notion is that infinity is a quantity x such that x + 1 = x. The idea is that the quantity is so large (either positive or negative) that increasing its value by 1 does not change it.
11-Feb-2005, 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
true enough ERTW... for layman purposes tho, its' close enough Kieran wins
ok now... theoretical question then for you... if lim a/x (where a is a natural number) as x -> 0 is infinity ... and you say a/0 is undefined... tell me... exactly what IS the definition of infinity?? to me (in my limited mental capacity) infinity = undefined
perhaps mathematically they differ, and if so... how? I mean I can't add, subtract, divide, or differentiate infinity? so it's not like it has a mathematical definition... or maybe my social science math < engineering math??
true enough ERTW... for layman purposes tho, its' close enough
Kieran wins ok now... theoretical question then for you... if lim a/x (where a is a natural number) as x -> 0 is infinity ... and you say a/0 is undefined... tell me... exactly what IS the definition of infinity?? to me (in my limited mental capacity) infinity = undefined
perhaps mathematically they differ, and if so... how? I mean I can't add, subtract, divide, or differentiate infinity? so it's not like it has a mathematical definition... or maybe my social science math < engineering math??
also Torrey, since you're so smart, differentiate lim 6/x as x -> 0 and compare it to lim 1/x as x -> 0
in other words, prove mathematically that 6/0 reaches infinity faster than 1/0. (I know it's true, but since you're so smart, show me)
11-Feb-2005, 08:00 PM
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3 cars:
92 Hatch
89 5.0L Notch
89 Prelude
And 4 girl friends in the time I've owned those cars. So 3:4.
I've currently got 2 girls interested and I'm selling my car so that ratio will change
92 Hatch
89 5.0L Notch
89 Prelude
And 4 girl friends in the time I've owned those cars. So 3:4.
I've currently got 2 girls interested and I'm selling my car so that ratio will change
12-Feb-2005, 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
Ok Torrey, same question for you then...
also Torrey, since you're so smart, differentiate lim 6/x as x -> 0 and compare it to lim 1/x as x -> 0
in other words, prove mathematically that 6/0 reaches infinity faster than 1/0. (I know it's true, but since you're so smart, show me)
Ok Torrey, same question for you then...
also Torrey, since you're so smart, differentiate lim 6/x as x -> 0 and compare it to lim 1/x as x -> 0
in other words, prove mathematically that 6/0 reaches infinity faster than 1/0. (I know it's true, but since you're so smart, show me)
But if you're trying to imply that 6/x = (6)*1/x, and that it would in your mind approach infinity 6 times as fast... well your wrong...
BTW the limit of 1/x as x->0 from the right is infinity, and from the left is negative infinity, thats why its limit is undefined.
Do a seach, and you'll find the 1/x function... I just got in and am not in the mood to search.
12-Feb-2005, 02:35 AM
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you're wrong Torrey... b/c if you look at the first differential of each function, the rate of change in lim 6/x as x -> 0 is greater than lim 1/x as x -> 0
so ETRW was correct in his statement.
and infinity is defined in 2 ways... lim 1/x as x->0 and also as X+1=X, meaning the addition of one cannot change the 'number'. In other words, there is a mathmatical definition for infinity... I looked it up
also, that's wrong:
6/x = (6)*1/x
I mean... it's not WRONG, but it's not what we're looking at. The function we're looking at differentiating is lim a/x as x->0 and a is a natural number.
so ETRW was correct in his statement.
and infinity is defined in 2 ways... lim 1/x as x->0 and also as X+1=X, meaning the addition of one cannot change the 'number'. In other words, there is a mathmatical definition for infinity... I looked it up
also, that's wrong:
6/x = (6)*1/x
I mean... it's not WRONG, but it's not what we're looking at. The function we're looking at differentiating is lim a/x as x->0 and a is a natural number.
12-Feb-2005, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
also, that's wrong:
6/x = (6)*1/x
I mean... it's not WRONG, but it's not what we're looking at. The function we're looking at differentiating is lim a/x as x->0 and a is a natural number.
also, that's wrong:
6/x = (6)*1/x
I mean... it's not WRONG, but it's not what we're looking at. The function we're looking at differentiating is lim a/x as x->0 and a is a natural number.
i hope you understand the lim a/x is the same as:
a* (lim 1/x)
reread your last post carefully......
13-Feb-2005, 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Thrill_House
I hope you understand how lame and offtopic all this is.
I hope you understand how lame and offtopic all this is.
Yeap I do, but with my ratio of cars to girls I honestly couldnt care less what you think
B and I are just playin around anyways.
