what do you guys think of this?
19-Nov-2008, 01:36 PM
#22
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so you don't understand analogies, nor do you understand the concept of with age comes wisdom.
when i was 19, i used to drive with my foot out of the window, we'd be driving through those walkways that say no motorized vehicles with our cars, all red lights at night were turned into "make a right, then a U turn", we'd be throwing things into cars with girls with a phone number on it... all sorts of stupid ish.
now, it seems pretty pointless.
it comes with experience.
regardless of how intelligent, mature, and respectable you are, chances are, in 5 years, you'll see yourself as being an idiot as you are now.
when i was 19, i used to drive with my foot out of the window, we'd be driving through those walkways that say no motorized vehicles with our cars, all red lights at night were turned into "make a right, then a U turn", we'd be throwing things into cars with girls with a phone number on it... all sorts of stupid ish.
now, it seems pretty pointless.
it comes with experience.
regardless of how intelligent, mature, and respectable you are, chances are, in 5 years, you'll see yourself as being an idiot as you are now.
19-Nov-2008, 01:38 PM
#23
so you don't understand analogies, nor do you understand the concept of with age comes wisdom.
when i was 19, i used to drive with my foot out of the window, we'd be driving through those walkways that say no motorized vehicles with our cars, all red lights at night were turned into "make a right, then a U turn", we'd be throwing things into cars with girls with a phone number on it... all sorts of stupid ish.
now, it seems pretty pointless.
it comes with experience.
regardless of how intelligent, mature, and respectable you are, chances are, in 5 years, you'll see yourself as being an idiot as you are now.
when i was 19, i used to drive with my foot out of the window, we'd be driving through those walkways that say no motorized vehicles with our cars, all red lights at night were turned into "make a right, then a U turn", we'd be throwing things into cars with girls with a phone number on it... all sorts of stupid ish.
now, it seems pretty pointless.
it comes with experience.
regardless of how intelligent, mature, and respectable you are, chances are, in 5 years, you'll see yourself as being an idiot as you are now.
19-Nov-2008, 03:10 PM
#24
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an indoor cat lives longer but is shelter from Satan worshiping teenages and drunk driving teenagers who drive them over.
an outdoor cat has a much higher chance of dying young or an illness because it's on the streets, but it can at least walk around and do as it pleases.
one is in a comfortable jail where there are no roads to cross and no squirrels to fight.
which life would you rather have?
one with a lot of control to ensure your safety? Or one that will let you explore at your own peril (with some guidance)
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most drunk drivers are older alcoholics in their 40s.
kids drive and kill themselves because they don't know what the limits of their car and they take greater risks.
That does not mean they should not be allowed to drive, or that we should have these stupid extensions.
an outdoor cat has a much higher chance of dying young or an illness because it's on the streets, but it can at least walk around and do as it pleases.
one is in a comfortable jail where there are no roads to cross and no squirrels to fight.
which life would you rather have?
one with a lot of control to ensure your safety? Or one that will let you explore at your own peril (with some guidance)
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most drunk drivers are older alcoholics in their 40s.
kids drive and kill themselves because they don't know what the limits of their car and they take greater risks.
That does not mean they should not be allowed to drive, or that we should have these stupid extensions.
19-Nov-2008, 03:18 PM
#25
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I'm 30 years old and I absolutely disagree with this law.
1 out of 4 idiots getting a car from their parents was hard enough at that age, especially to go on an overnight road trip.
Forget the safety and environment issues. The government is not here to tell force you to act responsibly.
You are not in jail, and you have parents.
i ****ing hate this ****. the government forcing everyone into submission more and more and time goes by.
if you can vote for your government, get a mortgage, or die for your country, you should have all the rights as the rest of us idiots.
If I could smash anyone in the face with a brick today and not be charged with assault, it would be McGuinty.
1 out of 4 idiots getting a car from their parents was hard enough at that age, especially to go on an overnight road trip.
Forget the safety and environment issues. The government is not here to tell force you to act responsibly.
You are not in jail, and you have parents.
i ****ing hate this ****. the government forcing everyone into submission more and more and time goes by.
if you can vote for your government, get a mortgage, or die for your country, you should have all the rights as the rest of us idiots.
If I could smash anyone in the face with a brick today and not be charged with assault, it would be McGuinty.
Well said.
I have seen worse drivers at 30 to 40 and beyond on a daily basis. Why aren't they putting restrictions on them?
It's stupid, just like the street racing law.
19-Nov-2008, 06:22 PM
#27
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i hear Asians are really bad drivers...they should also have this sanction...oh and old people, and people with no penises...girls generally are horrible at driving..to add to the girls sanction since there bad at parking... they should also not be allowed in parking lots with cars that are bigger then echo hatchback....
you see what im getting at, this is discrimination. I am 21, ive been driving for 5 years, are you telling me that my brother of 25 is a better driver??? with 6 tickets and 2 accidents on his record compared to my clean record..i don't think so.....
We are living in a world run by soccer mom's, and more recently Old men that think speed limits should never be over 40
you see what im getting at, this is discrimination. I am 21, ive been driving for 5 years, are you telling me that my brother of 25 is a better driver??? with 6 tickets and 2 accidents on his record compared to my clean record..i don't think so.....
We are living in a world run by soccer mom's, and more recently Old men that think speed limits should never be over 40
19-Nov-2008, 06:56 PM
#28
Isn't that called religion?...lol
Its funny, the government seems to pick on the small guys (i.e. street racers, also known as anyone who drives a modified car and is under 30, and now people under the age of 22). I guess its easier for them to make it seem like they're making a difference, and look sucessful at making positive changes.
Whats next? You can't ride a bicycle until you're 5 years old and you can only ride it below 5km/hr between the hours of 8am and 5pm?
I'm kinda of on the fence about this one, and to be true, don't know all of the proposed laws. But I feel stricter punishments are necessary to those at fault. The government seems to step in when the problem is getting what they feel is out of hand (also see my post on the smart meters). Stepping in, forcing people to change their ways. Which is kind of good, but kind of bad (more bad than good IMO).
As someone who's now a little older, I know what I did when I was younger(16-23ish), especially in and around cars, add friends to the mix, and **** could and would get crazy. Doing things like brucefee, but worse (don't wanna mention specific things here). Knowing how much crazier young kids are these days (with gangs, school shootings, drunk driving, etc etc etc) I can only imagine the stupid things people do with cars. So this law may not be a bad thing. Only time will tell I guess.
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19-Nov-2008, 07:50 PM
#30
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No, you're not the only one.
Also, it's not quite as severe as some of the drama queens are trying to make it out. Only points-carrying offences count towards the three strikes, so no new driver need fear that a 5 or even 15 km over speeding ticket will lead to suspension.
Passenger restrictions apply only for the first year of your G2 license, and there are no passenger restrictions at all with respect to those in your immediate family.
All this is doing is forcing newer drivers who have not yet built up their driving skills to be more careful at the start of their driving career, the time at which they, their passengers, and others on the road around them are most at risk because of their inexperience.
Last edited by FiveO; 19-Nov-2008 at 07:53 PM.
19-Nov-2008, 09:22 PM
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19-Nov-2008, 11:46 PM
#34
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I'm down with this too...kids are dumb as hell bottom line...I remember the crap me and my friends did when we were 16 and had our own cars and free reign and control of them...I look back and think "wow, what were we thinking?"
OP, why da fock do u live in markham and work in oakville??? especially being 18 that is mad redonculous y0!
OP, why da fock do u live in markham and work in oakville??? especially being 18 that is mad redonculous y0!
20-Nov-2008, 03:09 AM
#35
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i'm to old for this to affect me but my two cents is i agree with the blood alcoholl but the whole one passenger thing is wayy out of line what if you were going to a movie, school work etc...... and three strikes is not enough if they are all unlucky 60 in 50 zones were they have radar and are just peggin people left right and center or unsafe lane change without a signal.
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20-Nov-2008, 08:58 AM
#37
I'm down with this too...kids are dumb as hell bottom line...I remember the crap me and my friends did when we were 16 and had our own cars and free reign and control of them...I look back and think "wow, what were we thinking?"
OP, why da fock do u live in markham and work in oakville??? especially being 18 that is mad redonculous y0!
OP, why da fock do u live in markham and work in oakville??? especially being 18 that is mad redonculous y0!
yea, i actually quit today because of the snow. im actually NOT driving today because i dont have snow tires( and my tires are farely bad) and i dont wanna take the chance sliding into the back of someone...or even have someone slide into the back of me becuase depending on the damage...would determine how much money comes out of my walley with my coverage with insurance. so im juss going to bus it or park somewhere and take the bus today. because im a stupid irresponsible teenager.
it was a sick job though thats why but its not worth the drive.
20-Nov-2008, 10:37 AM
#38
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Either that or i think it should at the very leasy be targetted at INEXPERIENCED drivers...so anyone who only has their G2 or something like that regardless of age.
20-Nov-2008, 09:11 PM
#39
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Why not make the three strikes for points carrying tickets apply to all drivers instead? speeding is speeding, doesn't matter who does it. it's discriminating drivers based on age. might as well apply different sanctions for race, religion, gender while we're at it.
Either that or i think it should at the very leasy be targetted at INEXPERIENCED drivers...so anyone who only has their G2 or something like that regardless of age.
Either that or i think it should at the very leasy be targetted at INEXPERIENCED drivers...so anyone who only has their G2 or something like that regardless of age.
i agree with this....doesnt matter what age you are speeding is still speeding...i personally think this should be kept to g2 license holders as they are still fairly new to the road and what not. this whole new deal is just rediculous
20-Nov-2008, 09:24 PM
#40
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Dude, that restriction is from 12am - 5am.
Everyone should read read the complete members bill, and not what the media decides for you to read.
I both agree and disagree, I agree that a law should be in place, but not the restrictions that this one intends to do. It should be for new drivers, not for the age of a driver.
And then everyone forgets this one, and it slips thru to be passed while you all ponder on the Teen restrictions.
http://ogov.newswire.ca/ontario/GPOE...=&lang=_e.html
