sirux

Okay I got a cold air, apexi ws2 and I have a dc sports header in the mail (4-2-1)

What else can I do to my d-series ek civic (d16y8)
I don't want to put a turbo but what else could I do to it to add some good HP.

D.T.P

Bore, raise compression with some pistons and good rods.
What happened to turbo? To build n/a proper, will cost you. [assuming you will not do labour yourself]
Or you could just drive it and enjoy the nice fuel consumption. In the end its a civic, not a rocket lol.

Cynikal.Mindset

k-swap

kwasley

d16y8 will really struggle to make power NA, especially with your budget performance parts...

MPR

You've pretty much done all you can.

To get any decent power gain, you'd have to go forced induction or do internals (cam, pistons etc..).

D.T.P

I believe zeeman went over this already. It would be cheaper to build a D or B for the price of K swap. And it will be faster in the end.
Jeremy f/i ftw lol.

miss_jess

iTrader: (2)

weight reduction... get rid of the girlfriend hahahaha just kidding

what about full exhaust system?

D.T.P

^^exhaust is waste of money if you are looking for more power. And he's got a header, with apexi ws2 catback. Only thing could be changed is the cat with a high-flow one.
Btw Jess is jealousy killing you that Jeremy found somebody he loves?

spike

Wanting to make power out of an N/A, get your wallet open.

JDM-KID

iTrader: (1)

What about doing ITB's, and Im not 100% sure on this but wont a ecu reflash help?

D.T.P

^^ itb will help the responsiveness of the car. It will also add some power. Now ecu re-flash...you need to tune it not just flash it.
Although the itb will add power I know Jeremy will not be satisfied. Unless he will be pushed against the seat through atleast first 3 gears he won't be satisfied lol.
Either serious n/a build or turbo. Now it all depends if you are willing to wait for turbo to spool or you wanna have power from lower rpm. And how much are you willing to pay. <-lol I guess we should have started from that.

Rice Burner

i had a D16 done up, used high comp piston's, port and polished head with lumpy race cam, port t/b and plenum, DC headers with 2.25 " exaust, remap ecu, I was gonna do individual throtle bodies or carbs, but ended up selling it! It was fast back in it's day, but as more and more people did B16 swaps with mods, they'd beat me! Better off doing a turbo,cheaper or a b16 conv.

MPR

itb's are not ideal for a d series with stock internals. You will lose bottom end power and gain very little up top. They also need to be tuned which means you'd have to get a chipped ecu and have someone tune it for you.

For the cost to do that, you'd see much more of a gain by spending the same money on a cam and keeping the stock intake manifold.

D.T.P

^^ plus its an ek [d16y8=obd2] so you would have to do conversion to obd1 and hassle begins.
sell the civic and buy a faster car
or turbo and go through that hassle but in the end you will go fast
i mean if you hit 200whp stock...which is very reasonable as long as the motor is in good condition, you will walk on many people.
but in the end its for you to decide.
ps 200whp not=200crank hp[**** you see in flyers]

orthow

Some how this just doesn't make any sense. But I own a K and frequent K20a.org .. I've never heard anyone say a built B would beat a Built K.. hell how many 2.6L B-series's are there rolling around? lol Ah hell I'm not gonna bother with the debate but bottom line, B is retired.. K is the future but none of that helps the OP haha

To the OP.. your working with a 1.6l engine.. you have the majority of bolt ons.. any more would not gain anything worthwhile without looking at forced induction of some sort.

T-MacK

I don't know why everyone says D's can't make power??
Im making over 160whp on my set-up??
Internals is what you need to do to take it to the next level.

Simple way to make over 150whp hear it is.
-P29's high comp pistons
-Bisi level 2.2 cam and springs.....stock retainers will hold untill 9500rpm
-ajustable cam gear
-mill the head....D's love compression
-switch to OBD-1 and get a good solid tune
All so a decent header some ARP rod and headstuds to hold everything together. There you go you have a good DD that will run decent at the track.

MPR

He said a built d or b would be quicker and cheaper than swapping in a K...meaning a stock k. He didn't say a built k.

DumbasSi

B18B1 swap. Little bit more HP and more importantly, torque. Building a stock D can be done as Tmack and Zeeman have proven, but at what cost. I think a simple swap would be much chepaer and easier then building a D.

D.T.P

What I ment by that, the money you gonna spend on a K swap, it will be better if you got a b series built and swapped. It would be faster. Now a built K will be faster than a built B or D but now what will the price be?
So what I'm trying to say, with the same budget the B swap built will be faster with the money you spend.

T-MacK

Bottom line right hear.
I say Bisi if you want the best for your D.
-Bisi springs $179.00
-Bisi level 2 cam $349.00
-Bisi camgear $135.00
-FJT high compression N/A kit $298.00
Kit contains, high comp P29's
piston rings
Timing belt
ACL rod,main bearings and ACL thrust washers
HG and all gaskets and seals
-ARP rod and head studs $150.00

Lets see thats $1161.00......Plus the OBD-2 to OBD-1 conversion and a tune. Thats not that much considering you have a I/H/E plus with the tune you have a reliable badass high comp DD.
If more people went this route there would be less B swaps.