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Old 29-Feb-2008, 01:31 PM
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Selling my car.... This is a scam right?

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Scammer:
Hello, I'm really interested in your item. I will like to know if you still have it for sale Are you the first owner? Did you have all the paper work and the receipt of purchase for documentation? what is your last asking price and the present condition? Preffered method of payment is Certified cheque which would CLEAR in your bank account within 2 to 3 working days. before we could proceed with the shipment. I'll be expecting your mail soonest. Send pics if also available. i would be
very glad if you.
Me:
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Alright let me know your asking price
Me:
8500
Scammer:
"THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL,

1. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CASH THE CHECK AT THE NEAREST LOCAL CHECK CASHING POINT IN YOUR AREA? SAME DAY YOU RECEIVE THE CHECK?

2.WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WIRE THE EXCESS FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER SAME DAY YOU RECEIVE THE CHECK AFTER YOU HAVE DEDUCTED YOUR FEES?

3.WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HAVE A TIME FOR THE SHIPPING COMPANY TO ARRANGE FOR THE PICK UP OF THE THE STUFF?

4.GET BACK TO ME AS SOON AS AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE CHECK WOULD BE ISSUED BY MY CLIENTS TODAY OR TOMORROW OK. GET BACK TO ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ?

I APPRECIATE ALL UR EFFORT IN THIS TYPE OF TRANSACTION.A CHECK OF $10,700 AS BEEN ISSUE RIGHT AWAY U ARE TO DEDUCT MONEY FOR THE SALES AND THE CASHING FEE INCLUDING THE WESTERN UNION CHARGE FOR U TO SEND THE REMAINING EXCESS FUND SAME DAY U GOT THE CHECK GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS WITH UR CELLPHONE# ASAP..



THANKS
Nolly."
Me:
Yes No problem I will cash it at my neared checking point down here in Georgetown Sure I can wire the difference but how come you are sending me more money I am kind of confused, My asking price is just 8,500. Yes of course, anytime this weekend or later you or your shipping company can pick up the Vehicle.
Scammer:
i am very very happy to read from you and i will like to infrom you that the amount that is added to your last asking price i mean that i have added my shipping company monmey with it all you just have to do when you get the check you are to remove your last asking price out of the money send to you and get the reaming amount send back to the shipping company the same day you got the check ok
now all i need from you is your full name and adderss were the check can been mail out too
Me:
Oh alright.
So you will send me a check in the mail I understand. I will go to the nearest cashing point here in Georgetown which is actually at my local bank TD Canada Trust. Then I will send the remained which Is $2,200 to your shipping company. sure this is not a problem. Please provide me with the details to the shipping company. I have a great bank and checks usually clear immediately and same day, so I will make sure this transaction will go as fast as possible, glad to do business with you.

There is one problem however. The car does not come certified, if you would like it certified it will cost you an extra 400 dollars. Your total would come to 11,100 Dollars where as 8,900 will go to me, and the rest I may wire to your shipping company ($2,200).
Please tell me if I am getting it correctly.
Get back to me ASAP, I am looking forward to doing business with you. Need this car gone as soon as possible as I require funds for various things.
Scammer:
Thanks for your mail,


Due to the problem of the car i don't want it to come certified cos i want to pieces it for sale the is why I'm buying like that thanks for your great gesture toward me and i don't want you to forget all your promise concerning the excess fund...

I want you to get it send to my shipper so that they can get ready for the pick up and they is one more thing that is delaying this transaction i really need your full name and address so that the payment will be mail out immediately and don't forget to get back to me with your cellphone # so that i can reach you...

Here is my shipper contact E-mail Homedelivery@myway.com i want to read from you today


Regard
Me:
Oh no no, there is no problem with the car. Just very minor things which must be added to get the car certified. There is not a point in peicing such a car, very hard work was put into putting it together. But then again it will be your car so the choice is yours. I am contacting your shipper in regards to the shipping procedure.

Please send payment of $10,700 for the Vehicle+Shipment.
Andrew Kimber
217 Guelph Street
Georgetown, Ontario
L7G 4A8
Canada

I await your response.
Me (Sent this to his "Shipping Company)
Good evening.
I understand this company will be responsible for delivering a 1996 Honda Civic Vehicle to its Buyer Nolly Wood. I would just like to know how this procedure will go, the day, time of day, and all other relevant information that would be help me with this transaction. Thank you.

-Andrew Kimber.
Me (Sent this a little later to him, to have some fun)
I noticed you are purchasing my vehicle with the intention of using it for parts since you are not getting it certified.
My father runs a body shop/auto scrap yard here in Georgetown Ontario known as Custom Auto Accesories.

We have 6 other Honda Civics that we are trying to get rid of, and are trying to sell them as part cars. They are the following vehicles:

1996 Honda Civic DX (Red)
1996 Honda Civic DX (Black)
1997 Honda Civic EX (Black)
1998 Honda Civic Si (Red)
2000 Honda Civic Si (Blue)
2000 Honda Civic Si (Black)

Not sure if this would interest you at all, however if it does, get back to me and pictures can be sent as well as relevant information on whichever of the vehicles you are interested in. Only two of the vehicles currently have engines in them. They are both D16Y7 Engines. All of these vehicles have been written off, however all parts are there and they have completely been rebuilt. Like I said, only two of them have engines (The 1996 Dx's) If you are interested I can also let you test drive them. It is up to you.

Give me a call at 416-938-5797 if you are at all interested in these vehicles, Maybe we can work out some sort of deal, and maybe your shipping company will give you some sort of discount on a major purchase of vehicles.

Once again just thought I'd let you know, incase your interested at all in purchasing part Vehicles.
Thanks

-Andrew Kimber.
Scammer:
GOOD MORNING Sir
THANK'S FOR YOUR LOVERLY EAMIL I AM VERY HAPPY TO READ FORM YOU TODAY AND I WILL LIKE TO INFROM YOU THAT THE PAYMENT WILL BEEN MAIL OUT TO YOUR PROIVDE TO ME TODAY ALL YOU JUST HAVE TO DO TODAY ONEC YOU GET THE CHECK I WANT YOU TO REMOVE YOUR LAST ASKING PRICE OF THE AMOUNT THAT IS SEND TO YOU AND GET THE REAMING AMOUNT SENT TO THE SHIPPING COMPANY TODAY SO THAT THEY CAN GET READY FOR THE PICK UP OF THE ITEM
THANK'S
NOLLY
Me:
Alright. When should I recieve the check? How long will it take for it to arrive?
I will remove my asking price which is 8,500 from the check, however I still do not know where to send the remaining amount for the shipper. I have already contacted your shipping company, and am awaiting their response. I will let you know when they email me. I have also sent you another email with some information about a couple part cars I have to offer. Looking forward to doing business with you. Get back to me Thanks.

-Andrew Kimber
Scammer:
thank for the infromation i am very happy that you are willing to sell all those item for me all i just want you to do i want you to get all the price of the item send to me so that i can have it in mind okie
Me:
Yes No problem:

1996 Honda Civic DX (Red) - $3,500
1996 Honda Civic DX (Black) - $3,500
1997 Honda Civic EX (Black) - $2,000
1998 Honda Civic Si (Red) - $2,000
2000 Honda Civic Si (Blue) - $4,000
2000 Honda Civic Si (Black) - $4,000

The first two 1996 vehicles are priced a little bit higher then those of higher years mainly because of the Engine. All vehicles are write-offs however have been completely restored. The two 1996 Civic Dx's are available for test drive. Feel free to schedule one as soon as you like.
Prices are fully negotiable. Let me know if anything interestes you.
Scammer:
thank for the mail i am very happy to see all the price list of those loverly item but i will like to ask you can you sell 1996 Honda Civic DX (Red) - $3,500,1998 Honda Civic Si (Red) - $2,000,1996 Honda Civic DX (Black) - $3,500 i will like to buy those loverly three for now cose i don't have much money with me for now i hope you understand me better...
have you got the check ?
onec you get the check i want you to remember all the proimse you need that the same day you get the check you are going to send the shipper they money via money garm so that they can get ready for the pick up okay
and here is the shipper eamil homedelivery@myway.com
Me:
Oh I understand, this is honestly amazing news! Please let me know as soon as you can when you would like to test drive the two 1996 Vehicles, they have the D16Y7 engines in them.
Are the prices okay with you on those three? Please remember, the '98 Si cannot be moved, it is a Parts car with no Engine. Just want to make sure we're clear.
I have not received the check yet. When did you send it? How long untill I should recieve it? How did you send it, what form of shipping?
To my understanding you wanted me to use Western Union for the transfer.
I have also contacted the shipper and they have not yet responded through their email, I emailed them at homedelivery@myway.com , Never got a response, maybe you should contact them. Anyways we agreed to use Western Union for the shipper fees, I do not use moneygram, never used them before and am very inexperienced with them. Is it possible I can wire the money to your shipping company through Western Union?
Scammer:
GOOD MORNING Mr Andrew
how are you doing today i hope everything is well with you over their and your family?
i am very happy to read from you all the time Mr Andrew and i will like to infrom you that the check will been delivery to your home door today
Mr Andrew this is what my shipping company told me that they can not recceive money form western union cose they don't have any account with them
the only way they can recceive my is throunght via money gram cose they told me that they have been use money gram for the past some year now okay
and here is their eamil addersss homedelivery@myway.com
so Mr Andrew i want you to understand them very well
about the price of those loverly item i am okay with it
i will like to read form you today
Scammer:
hello how are you doing,

i have explain all things to my shipper they told me that you are to get to money gram and get money send to them and you are to provide a nice place where the pick up is going to take place and i have been waiting to read from you get back to me in time

Thanks
Me:
Good evening! Everything is great!
Sorry I could not have gotten back to you in time, I was busy at the Auto Shop.
Once I again I still have not heard from your shipping company, but it looks like you got a hold of them so that's great Thank you very much.
The check has not come in yet. Did you send it in a Parcel, or Letter? Parcel comes in very quickly in my town, however letter usually takes 3-5 Business days. Which day did you send it? I have check my mailbox about 15 minutes ago, and Nothing is there. Hopefully it will be in tomorrow.
About the transfer, I am still very used to wiring money via Western Union, I have never used money gram, and don't feel like opening at account with them. Once I receive the funds I would like to use Western Union instead, hopefully this will be fine with your shipping company.
About the other items, How will you be paying for them, and what would your shipping charge be on those three other vehicles just out of curiosity. Please also remember the two vehicles other then the '96's do not have engines. The rear wheels do not include tires, however the turbo is still there, so hopefully the car will start simply by turning the supercharger on, Tires should then inflate out of the rims automatically. Is this fine by you?
I am waiting to hear from you. I will check my mail in about 2 hours, sometimes things come-in after 4pm.
Me:
Good news! I just received the Check at the door. Wow I never got a check at the door before.
Thank you so much for such a pleasant transaction. I am going to head out to the bank right now and cash the check onto my TD Bank account. Will get back to you as soon as I can. Thank you once again!
Scammer:
i i am very happy to hear you say that you have got the check in your home door so all i will like to advise you is that just get the check cash out and when you have done that all i just want you to do i want you to remove your last asking price out of the amount send to you and get the reanimg amount send to my shiipping company okay
i am going to call them now to ask them just they have are other infromation just cose you told me that you can't use money garm sending the money to them
i will get back to you with their western union infroamtion so that you can get the money send to them this morning okay
Scammer:
so now that hour transaction is clear let talk about the part i want to buy form you now if you are okay with me paying you throunght check again let me know
Scammer:
Thanks for your mail,

As soon as you get the fund let me know before you get it send to them cos i will not be using that information giving to you cos that is money gram information so i will provide the western union information for and get it send to them immediately you receive the information...

Thanks
Me:
Hello Nolly Wood!
Like I previously said I am working alot at the Body Shop this is why I email around 3p.m. everyday. Im a very busy man.
Anyways, I have deposited the check yesterday, TD Bank was closed so I went to A&W instead. I Used their Number 4 Option and got it deposited into my Account immediately.
I wanted to wait untill the check clears before we proceed with the transaction, because my friends told me I should. I checked today and the funds are available! Looks like it has cleared! Very sorry for the late responses, I was busy working, and was waiting for the funds to be available.
On a Side note, I have also been recieving your calls, I am not ignoring you, however something is wrong with my phone provider and I cannot hear you very well, I did hear you say it is Nolly Wood though so I am sure it is you Thank you for staying in touch.

Anyways I have the funds in hand. I have removed my asking price and am ready to give the money to your shipping company through Western Union.
SO...Now he calls me a million times...
And finally I got him on Microphone...
Was busy with an essay so didn't plan what to say lol But haha he cracks me up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_eJSmjNeyw

Scammer:
Andrew,
Thanks for sounding really reasonably and
understanding,people of your calibre are a rarity
these days,not to waste much time on character
compliments,Below this email is the info of the
shipper where you will have the shipping funds sent to
the shipper after the deduction of your bike money I
want you to go and have the money sent out to the
shipper so that shipping arrangement can be made ASAP
because i want them to come and have it picked up
before or latest on friday,I'll be giving you
instructions on how to send the funds below. Here is
the info where you will send the funds to via
western union



FIRST NAME : Roberta
LAST NAME : Hodgkins
CITY : Portland
STATE : MAINE
ZIP CODE : 04103



That is the Information of the shipper where you will
be wiring the funds today.Immediately after you've
sent The funds,please send the following details back
to me
-Sender name and address Which is Yours
-The total amount sent in dollars after Western union
charges were deducted. they will charge for sending
the Money,that an obligation.
-The MTCN control number( a 10 digit confirmation
number). After you have send the funds send the
informations in which you use to send it back to me
ok.Once the funds is sent and the shipper get
it.Shippment should be made within 48hrs to 72hrs but
i'll let you know the
exact day and time so you can make yourself available
when the shipper comes to pick-up the bike okay,get
the bike ready for shippment as well..I hope you
undserstand as i've instructed you to do.And get back
to me as soon as you get this done
Regards
Nolly
Me (Time to get silly...sorry)
Hello Nolly Wood!
I've received the information, unfortunately I have no way of getting to Western Union today though.
I will do it first thing tomorrow. I have some questions though. Where are you located, the shipping company is in Maine as you have informed me, and getting the car through the border may be a problem because of Canadian Customs. They usually have a problem with cars coming through the border packed around Honey Crullers. However Good News, I have been informed by a good friend of mine that there is another shipping option. I may be able to Catapult the car to you if we can get the machine working. We recently had some trouble with the spartans and this is why It is not in the greatest condition. Please get back to me as soon as possible with the specified method of shipment so I can get this vehicle to you as soon as possible. I would hate to have you encounter any troubles at the border.
Scammer:
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for your quick response and i really appreciate it.I have told you already the shipper will will handle everything.The shipping company does international shippment.This is my second time of using the shipping company to pick-up from canada without any problem.You should not wory youself anymore.You should go ahead and wire the money Via Western Union this morning like i have instructed you to do.Kindly get back to me with Western Unon detail as soon as possible so they can process it for pick-up.Hope to hear from you now.
Thanks
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what do you yourself think of this?
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Hello Nolly!
I am awake, preparing to go to work, its 5am! Time for a busy day.
Okay but about our business with the car. I have contacted Catapult Inc. Yesterday and they should get back to me today around 11am. I may even be able to save you 500 Dollars on shipping, since 2,200 is too much. This was I can swing by the body shop for you, certify the car for you, and then send it through a company who deals with Canadian Customs daily! How does this sound? This way you get the car at the same price, recieve it certified, and my company can ship it to you across the boarders with no problems! Let me know as soon as possible and get back to me with the shipping address where you would like to have the car shipped to. I will send it over immediately through my company.

Also about the other vehicles, the three you are interested in, I can sell them at 9,000 like you specified. All three. Remember only two come with the motors.
I can also arrange shipping for this too, safely across the boarder, unless you prefer shipping through your company, that's fine too, just remember I cannot be responsible if you have trouble at the border, and occur extra costs due to Canadian customs, as well as Taxes and RCMP DowNot Fees. Two of the cars also come with Air conditioning so you will be charged an additional RIV fee of 100 dollars each. There are many little costs like this that I am trying to save you, however if you want to go ahead with your shipping company it is okay, just remember I cannot be held responsible for problems at the border.

But back to business with the original Red Honda Civic. Are you sure about sending to your shipping company? I can truly save you on Border taxes and make it all that much easier for you. Believe me customs will not be happy and will charge you some intense taxes, the car comes with a 2-4 of Molson in the trunk as well, I don't see it passing customs but once agian this is your risk.
Get back to me ASAP.
I have my I-Touch on me which unfolds into a 28 inch laptop so I am ready to get back to you anytime VIA email!

Looking to hear from you!

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and where is this guy from?
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No clue, its some yahoo email address.
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what the guy wants you to do is to go take teh check and deposit in your account....take the difference and wire him back. five days later...the check will bounce and your bank will bend you over take all the money back..hahahha
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oldest scam

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/overpayment-scam.html

goolge it
Overpayment scam
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^^ andrew needs more money though
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what kind of name is nolly lol.
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like rolly polly olly
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if your gonna get scammed why dont you give me your car andrew, y'know for free. i can even come pick it up instead of having a shipping company do it
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lol No no I know its a scam, wasnt sure at first, playing along to waste his time lol.
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dAMN! i need a free car right about now.. or a free engine.
mine needs a new head :/ or a good swap
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^^ whats up with the free stuff richard? haha
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dont bother, very old scam, i cant believe they still do it
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Even the oldest trick in the book, people will still fall for it.

6 billion in the world, all you need is one.
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Just tell the "buyer" that you will hold funds for a 30 day period to allow the check to clear, and that the buyer can take possession of the car and excess funds after that.

Offer the buyer the option to wire the funds directly from his bank to your bank instead.

Then see if you still have a buyer.
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^^ he will never hear from nolly again
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report it to the police

maybe they'll investigate and the scammer would be stupid enough to logon to yahoo mail from his own house = busted.
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wow. i cant believe anyone would actually be stupid enough to assume there is someone out there even stupider enough to fall for this crap. i would tell the dude to send a certified check then "forget" to send back anything
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