Need advice on buyin a car which needs the body rebuilded?
 

Hi, I'm only 17 and I want somethin cheap and nice, I was on auto trader, and I saw a few Civic Sirs w/low Km but w/a smashed front end go for like 5-9gs, i was thinkin if there isn't any structural damage is it worth gettin a car like this? Would it be cheaper on insurance because of the condition? Rite now I have a Toyota Sienna and the insurance is 2gs, if the car can have an insurance which is the same or juss a lil bit more, it's be ok for me, I'd luv to get an SIR and have an EL front end on it

your insurance will probably go threw the roof!

and if there isn't any structural damage, well getting new parts and installing them can be expensive. cause if you do it urself, it probably won't fit right.(unless you have experience doing this)

it really all depends on how much money you got to play around with. but i'm almost certain a 17 year old will not get insured on a sir for around $2000. maybe triple that amount and u'd probably be closer to the quote they'll throw at ya.

**** man
I'm tired of drivin my Sienna around
rite now i can sell the **** box for around 12-14gs
and I want somethin fast n nice

buy something cheap like a dx coupe or hatch, swap in a b16a2and upgrade suspension. it'll be cheaper on insurance.

your still young i sugest on buying something older like from 89-91 or 92-95 civic. insurance wont be as much. u can find parts for them pretty easily so when things to need repair its not raping you from the arse.

trust me there still great cars and u can easily modify them.
i'm 21 and drive a 94 civc. insurance aint bad on them especialy if u get a base model like a cx or dx. then u can allways do a swap when your money allows you.

for a fraction of the price u can get an older car and still have room in your wallet to modify it to your liking.

The problem is tis
I have an EL
if i was into a swap
I could swap a new engine in tat, but i find it tooo much of a hassle
n turbo is a MAJOR hassle, from learnin bout wat components u need to the maintence, tis is somethin I'm not lookin for....

then what are u complainin about a sienna for if u have an EL?

You can do anything you want when money ain't issue. But in this case, you got yourself into this insurance bracket of 2000 bucks a year.

17 year old + fast car + 2 door vehicle + manual = high insurance. Anywhere you go you will end up with the same quote. Get a 15 year old car and work from there. A 4th gen Civic is just as good as the later models. You certainly have your favourite picks (SIR + EL front end for instance) but the odds are working against you so you need to compromise somewhere along the line.

You also mentioned you have an EL, so you have 2 cars or that EL belongs to someone else? Like a family member and you wish to spend money on that car?

Anyway, like I said, if you got money to burn (either from yourself or your parents) then just get what you like. But if your resources are limited, you need to step back and look for alternatives.

me n my bro share 2 cars,
we switch cars every couple of days w/each other
n I'm mad in love w/the EL

I see.

Well good luck on your search.

if it was an insurance write off, there was a reason it was written off.

too much damage or structural damage - either way, a 17 year old shouldn't be trying to rebuild it.

man sell both yoru car's and get a 92 eg hatch swap in a ls with gsr tranny...or a b16 get soem suspension and your good to go...for cheap...or get a clean crx swap a b16 upgrade suspension and you got a nice littel setup that will run high 14's all day long :thumbup:

or spend 10 000 on a built ls/vtec and then 5000 on a 4th gen..woudl be nasty..13...maybe 12's all day long...

well I'm not really into older hondas
I love all hondas from 96-00 generation
n tegs from 94-00
I was juss hopin i could find a way around insurance
how bout a 94 GSR?

No, unfortunately there is no way around it.

There's always fraud :P Or you can be like me. Get a 4th gen dx and enjoy the "lower" insurance while it lasts.

When I was your age... I was paying $550/month on my 91 CRX Si... I'd check insurance out way before you even consider buying anything... to keep ya from wanting things you know you won't be able to have.

Lol, 94 GSR will definatly be one of your most EXPENSIVE choices

it'll cost u about...5 million a year!!

I got lucky at 16, my first car, i was paying 140 a month

If insurance rates didn't go up so drastically
you could be better off man

ya i kno wat u mean, insurance is such a ****er, my dad was gonna get me the new SIR at first, but due to insurance, there isn't a way around

Have your father as primary driver and you being Occasional. That will reduce some damages.

Which area do you live? As I learned lately, it also has a dramatic influence on your rates. [edit by bbarbulo: it is BAD to admit fraud on a public board... hope you understand I'm editing this for your own sake]