Ladies and Gentelman please read this!!
#21
eh now makes me wnana leave my car in the garage lol never i got pulled over couple weeks back n the cop complained abt my exhust my guages, my lowering, headlights and th ebulbs inside them but yea lucky me my insurance was expired os he let me go n said hell keep an eye on me lol
#22
Sounds like you had a dick, unfortunately there are tons of them in uniforms. I agree that some of the issues mentioned could have been warnings and not tickets. As for the targeting of imports and customs, thats total bs because you know you won't see any of those old ford and studdabaker guys getting pulled over.
#23
That sucks mike. I am always asking a cop, who's a friend of mine, what I can do , and what i can't do,lol. But I do it any way,because he is the type of cop that will bust you for being a dick to him, not for having stuff done to your car. He could of pulled my Si civic because he new i had nos in the trunk, and he saw the bottle in the back, so thats a ticket right there, but he's nice like that. Fight the tickets mike.
#25
no deal peel. that sucks, but what i dont like even more is when guys have muscle cars, even nicely restored, very occasional cars, i mean vintage not new ls1/lt1 powered cars or foxbodies or whatever, but high dollar vintage muscle, and they will go through with a fine tooth comb, no egr on aftermarket intake manifold -ticket, no cats -ticket, no back seatbelts -ticket (car didnt come with them for instance), all this dumb ****.
In regards to your problem, make sure you point out how he said he was making an example of you, and you can put a twist on saying how you're a part of Toronto Civics and the focus of the club is to change that mentality of "all kids with Hondas are street racing" or something of that nature.
In regards to your problem, make sure you point out how he said he was making an example of you, and you can put a twist on saying how you're a part of Toronto Civics and the focus of the club is to change that mentality of "all kids with Hondas are street racing" or something of that nature.
#28
improper muffler... hmmm I have 3 of those
unnecessary noise... only 1 of those
reckless driving... yup
illegal tints.... yep
improper headlights (more then 6)... yep
If a cop ever gets behind me, I know I'm gunna get pulled over and get a ticket, hell today was a fun day, I got pulled over for:
tinted windows
tinted taillights
tinted license plate cover
improper muffler
and aparantly my vw golf looks like a race car, LMAO winter beater FTW.
unnecessary noise... only 1 of those
reckless driving... yup
illegal tints.... yep
improper headlights (more then 6)... yep
If a cop ever gets behind me, I know I'm gunna get pulled over and get a ticket, hell today was a fun day, I got pulled over for:
tinted windows
tinted taillights
tinted license plate cover
improper muffler
and aparantly my vw golf looks like a race car, LMAO winter beater FTW.
#30
wow man. you get any points? isnt careless driving like 4 or 6 or something? I guess it all depends on the cop. I just got my car on the road and I have a 10 day on it. my brake lights were all screwed and when I braked my reverse lights came on lol. I had a cop pull in behind me followed me for abit and then turned the opposite way...
just a random question. if your car is stripped is there any ticket for that or are you just more suspicious?
just a random question. if your car is stripped is there any ticket for that or are you just more suspicious?
#31
Sorry to hear dat bro.. N way They did the sme thing to me B4 I got improper muffler X2,improper plate X2, following too close,in one night. different cop. but I didnt give up I went to court suprise those tickets has been withdrawn. SO CAREFULL GUYS....
#33
Originally posted by civic_66
wow man. you get any points? isnt careless driving like 4 or 6 or something? I guess it all depends on the cop. I just got my car on the road and I have a 10 day on it. my brake lights were all screwed and when I braked my reverse lights came on lol. I had a cop pull in behind me followed me for abit and then turned the opposite way...
just a random question. if your car is stripped is there any ticket for that or are you just more suspicious?
wow man. you get any points? isnt careless driving like 4 or 6 or something? I guess it all depends on the cop. I just got my car on the road and I have a 10 day on it. my brake lights were all screwed and when I braked my reverse lights came on lol. I had a cop pull in behind me followed me for abit and then turned the opposite way...
just a random question. if your car is stripped is there any ticket for that or are you just more suspicious?
#36
The reasons you got pulled over are all the discression of the cop, what makes "unnessary noise (muffler)", has the cop had his hearing test? maybe he has better hearing then 90% of the population? Has he even had a hearing test? I don't know anyone that has actually not had that dropped. They normally give that when they don't have anything else to ticket you with or just want to be a *****.
I was pulled over 4 years ago because he said I squeeled the tires off the lights, which I didn't, I did hear something but it was not me but because he saw my car (yellow) he pulled me over.
I was pulled over 4 years ago because he said I squeeled the tires off the lights, which I didn't, I did hear something but it was not me but because he saw my car (yellow) he pulled me over.
#37
I don't see why everyone is saying "that's too bad". If anything, I say that's exactly what needed to be done. Unnecessary noise from the muffler or the stereo is a real nuisance on the roads and furthermore, it is really dangerous because you cannot adequately hear sirens or the horns of other motorists. Your horn didn't work, your vehicle is unfit for the road, what is the issue here? The cop was right, you were wrong. Likely with the aftermarket steering wheel you don't have an airbag either.
It the careless people who mod their cars carelessly that give all the rest of the "import" scene a bad name. A little respect for the rules and you would not get hassled...go figure. If you get pulled over and everything is in order, you will NOT receive a ticket. I was pulled over many times in my old civic for routine "inspection" and since everything was in order I did not receive a ticket or any other unnecessary grief.
This thread makes me laugh. Thread starter was in the wrong, he got what he deserved.
It the careless people who mod their cars carelessly that give all the rest of the "import" scene a bad name. A little respect for the rules and you would not get hassled...go figure. If you get pulled over and everything is in order, you will NOT receive a ticket. I was pulled over many times in my old civic for routine "inspection" and since everything was in order I did not receive a ticket or any other unnecessary grief.
This thread makes me laugh. Thread starter was in the wrong, he got what he deserved.
#38
Originally posted by civicnation
I don't see why everyone is saying "that's too bad". If anything, I say that's exactly what needed to be done. Unnecessary noise from the muffler or the stereo is a real nuisance on the roads and furthermore, it is really dangerous because you cannot adequately hear sirens or the horns of other motorists. Your horn didn't work, your vehicle is unfit for the road, what is the issue here? The cop was right, you were wrong. Likely with the aftermarket steering wheel you don't have an airbag either.
It the careless people who mod their cars carelessly that give all the rest of the "import" scene a bad name. A little respect for the rules and you would not get hassled...go figure. If you get pulled over and everything is in order, you will NOT receive a ticket. I was pulled over many times in my old civic for routine "inspection" and since everything was in order I did not receive a ticket or any other unnecessary grief.
This thread makes me laugh. Thread starter was in the wrong, he got what he deserved.
I don't see why everyone is saying "that's too bad". If anything, I say that's exactly what needed to be done. Unnecessary noise from the muffler or the stereo is a real nuisance on the roads and furthermore, it is really dangerous because you cannot adequately hear sirens or the horns of other motorists. Your horn didn't work, your vehicle is unfit for the road, what is the issue here? The cop was right, you were wrong. Likely with the aftermarket steering wheel you don't have an airbag either.
It the careless people who mod their cars carelessly that give all the rest of the "import" scene a bad name. A little respect for the rules and you would not get hassled...go figure. If you get pulled over and everything is in order, you will NOT receive a ticket. I was pulled over many times in my old civic for routine "inspection" and since everything was in order I did not receive a ticket or any other unnecessary grief.
This thread makes me laugh. Thread starter was in the wrong, he got what he deserved.
#39
Originally posted by civicnation
I don't see why everyone is saying "that's too bad". If anything, I say that's exactly what needed to be done. Unnecessary noise from the muffler or the stereo is a real nuisance on the roads and furthermore, it is really dangerous because you cannot adequately hear sirens or the horns of other motorists. Your horn didn't work, your vehicle is unfit for the road, what is the issue here? The cop was right, you were wrong. Likely with the aftermarket steering wheel you don't have an airbag either.
It the careless people who mod their cars carelessly that give all the rest of the "import" scene a bad name. A little respect for the rules and you would not get hassled...go figure. If you get pulled over and everything is in order, you will NOT receive a ticket. I was pulled over many times in my old civic for routine "inspection" and since everything was in order I did not receive a ticket or any other unnecessary grief.
This thread makes me laugh. Thread starter was in the wrong, he got what he deserved.
I don't see why everyone is saying "that's too bad". If anything, I say that's exactly what needed to be done. Unnecessary noise from the muffler or the stereo is a real nuisance on the roads and furthermore, it is really dangerous because you cannot adequately hear sirens or the horns of other motorists. Your horn didn't work, your vehicle is unfit for the road, what is the issue here? The cop was right, you were wrong. Likely with the aftermarket steering wheel you don't have an airbag either.
It the careless people who mod their cars carelessly that give all the rest of the "import" scene a bad name. A little respect for the rules and you would not get hassled...go figure. If you get pulled over and everything is in order, you will NOT receive a ticket. I was pulled over many times in my old civic for routine "inspection" and since everything was in order I did not receive a ticket or any other unnecessary grief.
This thread makes me laugh. Thread starter was in the wrong, he got what he deserved.
Yeah well said bro same exact thing i said on the first page. I just said with a little more respect. Since you know, we ARE all adults. LOL
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Mike's exhaust is as close to oem noise-levels as you can get..
imo, if all that is legal is an oem exhaust then every exhaust shop should be shut down
i looked up "hollywood muffler" in websters...couldn't find shyt
looked up hollywood as an adjective and found "1 : of or characteristic of people in the American motion-picture industry <the Hollywood lifestyle>
2 : of or characteristic of a Hollywood film <a story with a Hollywood happy ending>
a clear definition of this term belongs in the hta
75. (1) Every motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle shall be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and excessive smoke, and no person shall use a muffler cut-out, straight exhaust, gutted muffler, hollywood muffler, by-pass or similar device upon a motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (1).
his muffler is none of these
i again did a quick read of the hta and the only thing it mentions re: airbag is you can't sell or use a rebuilt one...couldn't find anything about removing one
i looked thru req's for safety and again couldn't find anything
"rumor" has it that should you sell your car you would need to have one...tried finding something but in an hour couldn't
71.1 (1) No person shall sell, offer or advertise for sale, or have in the person’s possession with intent to sell, a rebuilt air bag. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Rebuilding air bags prohibited
(2) No person shall rebuild an air bag. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Installation of rebuilt air bags prohibited
(3) No person shall install a rebuilt air bag in a motor vehicle. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Penalty
(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (1), (2) or (3) or who contravenes or fails to comply with a regulation made under clause (5) (c) is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable,
(a) for a first offence, to a fine of not less than $1,000 and not more than $5,000; and
(b) for each subsequent offence, to a fine of not less than $5,000 and not more than $20,000. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Regulations
(5) The Lieutenant Governor in Council may make regulations,
(a) defining “rebuilt air bag” for the purpose of this section;
(b) prescribing the activities that constitute or do not constitute rebuilding an air bag for the purpose of this section;
(c) prescribing methods and standards for installing air bags, other than rebuilt air bags, and requiring all persons or any class of persons to comply with the methods and standards;
(d) exempting any class of persons, any class of air bags, other than rebuilt air bags, and any class of motor vehicle from any provision of a regulation made under clause (c) and prescribing conditions for any such exemptions;
(e) respecting any other matter that the Lieutenant Governor in Council considers necessary or advisable in connection with this section. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Regulation that incorporates another document
(6) A regulation made under clause (5) (c) that incorporates another document by reference may provide that the reference to the document includes amendments made to the document from time to time after the regulation is made. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
See: 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, ss. 20, 46 (1).
as per lighting, again going to the hta...all it says is you can not diminish the intensity of your lighting, use tinted bulbs or exceed 300 candela
strength of lamps
(6) Lamps on the front of a motor vehicle shall be so constructed, located, arranged and adjusted that when lighted as required by subsections (1), (2) and (3) they produce under normal atmospheric conditions and on a level road a driving light sufficient to render clearly discernible to the operator of the motor vehicle any person or vehicle on the highway within a distance of 110 metres ahead of the motor vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (6).
Attachment that affects lamps prohibited
(7) No person shall drive upon a highway a motor vehicle if either or both of the lamps that are required on the front of the vehicle by subsections (1), (2) and (3),
(a) are coated or covered with a coloured material; or
(b) have been modified by the attachment to the lamps or the motor vehicle of any device that reduces the effective area of the lenses or the intensity of the beam of the lamps. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (1).
Exception
(7.1) Clause (7) (a) does not apply if the lamps are of the prescribed type or meet the prescribed standards. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (1).
Lighted streets
(8) Subsection (6) does not apply to a motor vehicle parked on a highway and subsections (1), (2), (3), (10), (11), (13), (23), (24), (26) and (27) do not apply to a vehicle parked on a highway upon which the speed limit is not greater than 50 kilometres per hour and which is so lighted by the means of any system of street or highway lighting that the vehicle is clearly discernible within a distance of sixty metres. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (8).
Strength of front lamps
(9) No motor vehicle shall carry on the front thereof more than four lighted lamps that project a beam having an intensity of over 300 candela. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (9).
Regulations as to lights on vehicles
(21) The Lieutenant Governor in Council may make regulations,
(a) prescribing the type and maximum strength of lights that shall be carried by vehicles, and regulating the location, direction, focus and use of the lights;
(b) regulating or prohibiting the use of lights on vehicles that automatically produce intermittent flashes of light;
(c) prescribing types of, or standards for, lamps coated or covered with a coloured material that may be used for the purpose of subsection (7.1). R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (21); 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (3).
no wonder we're all confused as to what's legal and what's not
if they insist on consistently throwing all of this at us they should make it easier for the gp to decpiher the rules
everything should be available in one easy-to-read document
some of the charges could be deserved, but others are not
amendments to the hta..wtf to find what they allude to tho?? still searching for answers
1992, c. 20, s. 2;
1993, c. 8
c. 13, s. 1
c. 18
c. 27, Sch.
c. 31, s. 2
c. 34
c. 40;
1994, c. 27, s. 138
c. 28
c. 29
c. 35;
1996, c. 1, Sch. E, s. 2
c. 9, s. 26
c. 20
c. 31, s. 68-71
c. 32, s. 71
c. 33, s. 1-17;
1997, c. 4, s. 81
c. 12
c. 26, Sch.
c. 41, s. 120;
1998, c. 5, s. 25-27
c. 6
c. 18, Sch. G, s. 56
c. 28, s. 67
c. 35, s. 103
c. 38;
1999, c. 8, s. 7
c. 12, Sch. B, s. 9
c. 12, Sch. G, s. 24
c. 12, Sch. R, s. 1-19
c. 13;
2000, c. 15
c. 26, Sch. O
c. 29
c. 30, s. 10
c. 35;
2001, c. 4, s. 4
c. 9, Sch. O
c. 13, s. 18
c. 32, s. 26;
2002, c. 4, s. 64
c. 5, s. 32
c. 17, Sch. C, s. 15
c. 17, Sch. F, Table
c. 18, Sch. P, s. 1-39
c. 21
c. 22, s. 95-100
c. 24, Sch. B, s. 25
c. 30, Sch. E, s. 7;
2004, c. 22, s. 1-6
c. 31, Sch. 18;
2005, c. 14
c. 26, Sch. A
c. 31, Sch. 10
c. 32, s. 2;
2006, c. 11, Sch. B, s. 6
c. 19, Sch. D, s. 9
c. 19, Sch. T, s. 4-7
c. 20
c. 21, Sch. F, s. 115, 136 (1), 139
c. 25
c. 32, Sch. C, s. 24
c. 32, Sch. D, s. 4
c. 33, Sch. M.
just fired this off to our friendly Ontarion government
Hello
I have been reading through the Highway Traffic Act, and see many amendments to it listed. I have as yet been unable to find any listing of these changes. Could you please direct me to a link where i might locate a comprehensive list of these amendments.
Also, could you please direct me towards a list of what is required for a vehicle safety certification?
Thank you for your time
Me
i figure if there's a possibility me or mine might get pulled over it's best to have everything "legal" at hand
imo, if all that is legal is an oem exhaust then every exhaust shop should be shut down
i looked up "hollywood muffler" in websters...couldn't find shyt
looked up hollywood as an adjective and found "1 : of or characteristic of people in the American motion-picture industry <the Hollywood lifestyle>
2 : of or characteristic of a Hollywood film <a story with a Hollywood happy ending>
a clear definition of this term belongs in the hta
75. (1) Every motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle shall be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and excessive smoke, and no person shall use a muffler cut-out, straight exhaust, gutted muffler, hollywood muffler, by-pass or similar device upon a motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (1).
his muffler is none of these
i again did a quick read of the hta and the only thing it mentions re: airbag is you can't sell or use a rebuilt one...couldn't find anything about removing one
i looked thru req's for safety and again couldn't find anything
"rumor" has it that should you sell your car you would need to have one...tried finding something but in an hour couldn't
71.1 (1) No person shall sell, offer or advertise for sale, or have in the person’s possession with intent to sell, a rebuilt air bag. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Rebuilding air bags prohibited
(2) No person shall rebuild an air bag. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Installation of rebuilt air bags prohibited
(3) No person shall install a rebuilt air bag in a motor vehicle. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Penalty
(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (1), (2) or (3) or who contravenes or fails to comply with a regulation made under clause (5) (c) is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable,
(a) for a first offence, to a fine of not less than $1,000 and not more than $5,000; and
(b) for each subsequent offence, to a fine of not less than $5,000 and not more than $20,000. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Regulations
(5) The Lieutenant Governor in Council may make regulations,
(a) defining “rebuilt air bag” for the purpose of this section;
(b) prescribing the activities that constitute or do not constitute rebuilding an air bag for the purpose of this section;
(c) prescribing methods and standards for installing air bags, other than rebuilt air bags, and requiring all persons or any class of persons to comply with the methods and standards;
(d) exempting any class of persons, any class of air bags, other than rebuilt air bags, and any class of motor vehicle from any provision of a regulation made under clause (c) and prescribing conditions for any such exemptions;
(e) respecting any other matter that the Lieutenant Governor in Council considers necessary or advisable in connection with this section. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
Regulation that incorporates another document
(6) A regulation made under clause (5) (c) that incorporates another document by reference may provide that the reference to the document includes amendments made to the document from time to time after the regulation is made. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 20.
See: 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, ss. 20, 46 (1).
as per lighting, again going to the hta...all it says is you can not diminish the intensity of your lighting, use tinted bulbs or exceed 300 candela
strength of lamps
(6) Lamps on the front of a motor vehicle shall be so constructed, located, arranged and adjusted that when lighted as required by subsections (1), (2) and (3) they produce under normal atmospheric conditions and on a level road a driving light sufficient to render clearly discernible to the operator of the motor vehicle any person or vehicle on the highway within a distance of 110 metres ahead of the motor vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (6).
Attachment that affects lamps prohibited
(7) No person shall drive upon a highway a motor vehicle if either or both of the lamps that are required on the front of the vehicle by subsections (1), (2) and (3),
(a) are coated or covered with a coloured material; or
(b) have been modified by the attachment to the lamps or the motor vehicle of any device that reduces the effective area of the lenses or the intensity of the beam of the lamps. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (1).
Exception
(7.1) Clause (7) (a) does not apply if the lamps are of the prescribed type or meet the prescribed standards. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (1).
Lighted streets
(8) Subsection (6) does not apply to a motor vehicle parked on a highway and subsections (1), (2), (3), (10), (11), (13), (23), (24), (26) and (27) do not apply to a vehicle parked on a highway upon which the speed limit is not greater than 50 kilometres per hour and which is so lighted by the means of any system of street or highway lighting that the vehicle is clearly discernible within a distance of sixty metres. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (8).
Strength of front lamps
(9) No motor vehicle shall carry on the front thereof more than four lighted lamps that project a beam having an intensity of over 300 candela. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (9).
Regulations as to lights on vehicles
(21) The Lieutenant Governor in Council may make regulations,
(a) prescribing the type and maximum strength of lights that shall be carried by vehicles, and regulating the location, direction, focus and use of the lights;
(b) regulating or prohibiting the use of lights on vehicles that automatically produce intermittent flashes of light;
(c) prescribing types of, or standards for, lamps coated or covered with a coloured material that may be used for the purpose of subsection (7.1). R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (21); 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (3).
no wonder we're all confused as to what's legal and what's not
if they insist on consistently throwing all of this at us they should make it easier for the gp to decpiher the rules
everything should be available in one easy-to-read document
some of the charges could be deserved, but others are not
amendments to the hta..wtf to find what they allude to tho?? still searching for answers
1992, c. 20, s. 2;
1993, c. 8
c. 13, s. 1
c. 18
c. 27, Sch.
c. 31, s. 2
c. 34
c. 40;
1994, c. 27, s. 138
c. 28
c. 29
c. 35;
1996, c. 1, Sch. E, s. 2
c. 9, s. 26
c. 20
c. 31, s. 68-71
c. 32, s. 71
c. 33, s. 1-17;
1997, c. 4, s. 81
c. 12
c. 26, Sch.
c. 41, s. 120;
1998, c. 5, s. 25-27
c. 6
c. 18, Sch. G, s. 56
c. 28, s. 67
c. 35, s. 103
c. 38;
1999, c. 8, s. 7
c. 12, Sch. B, s. 9
c. 12, Sch. G, s. 24
c. 12, Sch. R, s. 1-19
c. 13;
2000, c. 15
c. 26, Sch. O
c. 29
c. 30, s. 10
c. 35;
2001, c. 4, s. 4
c. 9, Sch. O
c. 13, s. 18
c. 32, s. 26;
2002, c. 4, s. 64
c. 5, s. 32
c. 17, Sch. C, s. 15
c. 17, Sch. F, Table
c. 18, Sch. P, s. 1-39
c. 21
c. 22, s. 95-100
c. 24, Sch. B, s. 25
c. 30, Sch. E, s. 7;
2004, c. 22, s. 1-6
c. 31, Sch. 18;
2005, c. 14
c. 26, Sch. A
c. 31, Sch. 10
c. 32, s. 2;
2006, c. 11, Sch. B, s. 6
c. 19, Sch. D, s. 9
c. 19, Sch. T, s. 4-7
c. 20
c. 21, Sch. F, s. 115, 136 (1), 139
c. 25
c. 32, Sch. C, s. 24
c. 32, Sch. D, s. 4
c. 33, Sch. M.
just fired this off to our friendly Ontarion government
Hello
I have been reading through the Highway Traffic Act, and see many amendments to it listed. I have as yet been unable to find any listing of these changes. Could you please direct me to a link where i might locate a comprehensive list of these amendments.
Also, could you please direct me towards a list of what is required for a vehicle safety certification?
Thank you for your time
Me
i figure if there's a possibility me or mine might get pulled over it's best to have everything "legal" at hand