GSR swap VS turbo
07-Jul-2009, 06:56 PM
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GSR swap VS turbo
Since thats probably going to be my next big mod for my D16y7 i want to ask the experts and not so experts
A gsr swap and a turbo are about the same price to do (roughly) , which one would you do first ??
I know that i will gain more horse power with a turbo and my d16y7 however a GSR engine will be more reliable in the longer run.
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A gsr swap and a turbo are about the same price to do (roughly) , which one would you do first ??
I know that i will gain more horse power with a turbo and my d16y7 however a GSR engine will be more reliable in the longer run.
DISCUSS....
07-Jul-2009, 07:16 PM
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it seems to be running pretty strong... The exhaust guy tested my car today and he was telling me how much power a little engine like mine had ... It has 210 000 km though ..
I want to go faster thats for sure but i dont know if my engine can handle a turbo... at the end it will be my decision but i just want opinions....
I want to go faster thats for sure but i dont know if my engine can handle a turbo... at the end it will be my decision but i just want opinions....
08-Jul-2009, 10:51 AM
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id go with a gsr.. even tho trubo may be more fun and faster.. if ur engine goes ur stuck with a turbo.. or if the trubo f's up ur stuck with a d series
at least if u get a b18 ull have aa quick engine for time.. and then jsut turbo that after a few years if u get bored
at least if u get a b18 ull have aa quick engine for time.. and then jsut turbo that after a few years if u get bored
08-Jul-2009, 11:12 AM
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it seems to be running pretty strong... The exhaust guy tested my car today and he was telling me how much power a little engine like mine had ... It has 210 000 km though ..
I want to go faster thats for sure but i dont know if my engine can handle a turbo... at the end it will be my decision but i just want opinions....
I want to go faster thats for sure but i dont know if my engine can handle a turbo... at the end it will be my decision but i just want opinions....
What performance or power do you talk off??
That is hands down the biggest slushbox econo D Honda ever made out of the factory!
And with 210,000 k's on your car already, putting on a turbo will probaly blow it up without a fresh rebuild. But wait have fun rebuilding your D17. Your better off leaving the engine or swapping for an actuall engine.
08-Jul-2009, 11:35 AM
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sit in a gsr car, and sit in a turbo car, then you will see the difference 
i have sat in both and turbo is the way to go lol, dont get me wrong gsp is prety quick but turbo is whole different level. i have also sat in build gsr turbo that was hala fast lol
i have sat in both and turbo is the way to go lol, dont get me wrong gsp is prety quick but turbo is whole different level. i have also sat in build gsr turbo that was hala fast lol
08-Jul-2009, 11:45 AM
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You have a D17??
What performance or power do you talk off??
That is hands down the biggest slushbox econo D Honda ever made out of the factory!
And with 210,000 k's on your car already, putting on a turbo will probaly blow it up without a fresh rebuild. But wait have fun rebuilding your D17. Your better off leaving the engine or swapping for an actuall engine.
What performance or power do you talk off??
That is hands down the biggest slushbox econo D Honda ever made out of the factory!
And with 210,000 k's on your car already, putting on a turbo will probaly blow it up without a fresh rebuild. But wait have fun rebuilding your D17. Your better off leaving the engine or swapping for an actuall engine.
I m not sure if turbos can be transfer from a d series engine to a b series ...
08-Jul-2009, 11:48 AM
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well i noticed that everybody failed to notice what the OP said. if you are thinking about turboing the gsr, i would say get the swap first and then turbo. since b18 manifold and injectors are different from the d16. i think what you have to decide is what is your power goal and how much money are you willing to spend. if you are looking for something around 200whp which could be easily achieved with a turbo kit on a d16y7 then go with that. if you want high 200's then swap+turbo.
if i was you, i would get compression and leak down test done first on the d16y7 just to see how it is. i assume you would not be able to tell the difference if you are loosing compression in one cylinder and with turbo it would kill you quick. so do that first and then make an educated decission.
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if i was you, i would get compression and leak down test done first on the d16y7 just to see how it is. i assume you would not be able to tell the difference if you are loosing compression in one cylinder and with turbo it would kill you quick. so do that first and then make an educated decission.
GL
08-Jul-2009, 12:00 PM
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well i noticed that everybody failed to notice what the OP said. if you are thinking about turboing the gsr, i would say get the swap first and then turbo. since b18 manifold and injectors are different from the d16. i think what you have to decide is what is your power goal and how much money are you willing to spend. if you are looking for something around 200whp which could be easily achieved with a turbo kit on a d16y7 then go with that. if you want high 200's then swap+turbo.
if i was you, i would get compression and leak down test done first on the d16y7 just to see how it is. i assume you would not be able to tell the difference if you are loosing compression in one cylinder and with turbo it would kill you quick. so do that first and then make an educated decission.
GL
if i was you, i would get compression and leak down test done first on the d16y7 just to see how it is. i assume you would not be able to tell the difference if you are loosing compression in one cylinder and with turbo it would kill you quick. so do that first and then make an educated decission.
GL
This honda is more like a project/car , I m starting to read about modes , engines , exhausts, turbos etc and i enjoy it however like someone said its not cheap.....
As of know this civic is my primary way of transportation , in a year or less we are planning on getting a suv with my wife. We also have a mazda 3 gt which my wife drives and its automatic/tiptronic. Once i get the suv the honda most then likely will be a summer car only or a spare car.
I bought this honda like 4 years ago and it was already modify from the previous owner
I dont have the money to buy a mustang or a camaro and i dont see the joy in buying a car thats already fast...
My goal is to make my civic 200 + HP which is very respectable , i also know the i dont have the money to make it 300+
So far i have this in mind
1 GSR swap 2000$
2 turbo 2000$
3 nas kit 500 $ ( i m debating on this one)
So about 4500 to make my car really fast....
I think i asked the wrongs question , like you said i thought a turbo could be transfer from a d series to a b series , therefore i was thinking why waste my d series engine , why not put a turbo in it let it die and then put a gsr and transfer the turbo to it
In reality i can not spend close to 5 grand in my civic in a year so if i want to accomplished all that it would have to be at least 2 years ... So far this year i ve spend 1500 ( paint job , rims ) and i m about to put 500 for an exhaust , however i m reading all over the internet to get the best exhaust for my budget
08-Jul-2009, 12:11 PM
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I dont think it ll go over 5000 .. I already have my mechanic quoting 1800 for a turbo install and everything ( he has a civic too ,pretty nice set up)... GSR swap is what could cost more however 2000 is duable and the nas kit someone here was selling one for 300 ( maybe 200 for install) so about 4300 ( best case ) however 5000 is possible...
08-Jul-2009, 12:18 PM
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when i said over 5k i ment inc, brakes, suspension, exhaust basically this and every other thing that is needed to make this work.
if you want to go really fast, you might want to stop on time as well, so brakes
you want good handling and ride stability with gsr turbo or any other setup like this... so need decent suspension setup.
and of course exhaust setup.
and few other things here and there.
but it sure will be a fun project.
if you want to go really fast, you might want to stop on time as well, so brakes
you want good handling and ride stability with gsr turbo or any other setup like this... so need decent suspension setup.
and of course exhaust setup.
and few other things here and there.
but it sure will be a fun project.
08-Jul-2009, 12:26 PM
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Nos is just for tracks...
1 illegal for the streets
2 i dont want to kill myself or someone using it on hurontario
Like i said before it will be my daily driving ( in the summer ) and i will be taking it to the tracks too
08-Jul-2009, 12:28 PM
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when i said over 5k i ment inc, brakes, suspension, exhaust basically this and every other thing that is needed to make this work.
if you want to go really fast, you might want to stop on time as well, so brakes
you want good handling and ride stability with gsr turbo or any other setup like this... so need decent suspension setup.
and of course exhaust setup.
and few other things here and there.
but it sure will be a fun project.
if you want to go really fast, you might want to stop on time as well, so brakes
you want good handling and ride stability with gsr turbo or any other setup like this... so need decent suspension setup.
and of course exhaust setup.
and few other things here and there.
but it sure will be a fun project.
exhaust i m doing this year .. so my 2000 budget is gone with the exhaust job ( 500 $) ... To be honest i didnt even think of that LOL .. then yes for sure it will be a little over 5000...
But its still cheaper than buying a 250+ horsepower car and having not fun at all
