BlitzSix

Hi guys, I need advice on what to do with my Civic. It's a 92 Sedan, basically the engine and tranny are PERFECT (burn no oil, never grind, etc). New clutch, yayayada. Body is not great, but not horrible (I will fix that hood thing), and it needs a couple things (exhaust is loud, it might need a cat, and maybe an axle... no biggie.. I've also done an axle and both ball joints I believe while I had it).

Here is my ad if you want to read all the details:

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...QAdIdZ98407470

I price it a tad high because I still have my mods on it (short shifter and deck/speakers) plus it's on basically brand new winter tires (price is obviulsy obo as well). Without that stuff, I'd want to get around a grand for the car. It's also basically top of the line with all power options, and pretty much everything works.. a/c, cruise, PW, PL, yayayada.. it has absolutely no problems.

I want to get like a grand for the car with the stock speakers, no short shift, and normal all seasons. But I haven't even had an offer on it (I know I just listed it yesterday, but I should have at least SOME interest.. no?).

I might pull it off and relist it once I fix the hood/bumper area, as it may be scaring people away. Anyone has any advice on how I can get the most money for it? Does a grand sound good for it? Like I said it may need a thing or two but it has tons of options and runs great.

I've considered parting it out too, but it's a bit of a shame to do that since the engine and tranny are perfect. Would I be able to get more money for it this way? I figure the A/C and cruise control may be popular items for people who don't have them but want it in their cars. Would it be worth it though? Is there enough demand?

Thanks for any advice..

starboy869

Not to be a hater

But when do 1+yr old parts are considered BRAND new?

BlitzSix

What exactly are you referring to? In my ad I said "Brand new distributor/brakes 3 years ago"... meaning I bought the parts brand new then when I got them (vs. like just getting the dizzy from a junkyard or something). Obviously 3 years later they are not brand new (and I wasn't trying to say that), but things like the dizzy are still worth mentioning because they are a common failiure part on these cars, so if I put a brand new one a few years ago it's not that likely to fail.

If you are referring to this post when I said "new clutch", well again I'm not saying it's new as I said I did it a year ago, but the life expectancy of a clutch is like 200 000 + km and I've used it for what... 20 000 km... so basically the new owner will not have to worry about it for the life of the car. It's important because a lot of these cheaper cars will need things like new clutches, so since mine was already done it's a good thing ?

k_r_a_c_k_e_r

iTrader: (3)

I dont think you'll get much more then a grand the way it sits..

4 door EG with tank interior isnt the biggest seller..

cert/etested??

BlitzSix

Yeah I'd honestly be fine with a grand the way it is too, but haven't even had offers. It's not cert or etested.

It's obviously not for an enthusiast but it's a great a-b car for someone who isn't concerned about looks too much. It's a perfectly running car.

Thing is, I've gone shopping for cars in this price range (like a grand) and they all need a lot of **** that they don't tell you until you get there. Some guy said a car had 220k km, I got there it had 350000, he claimed he didn't realize that when he listed the ad :/ and then it overheated while I was driving it... This was a 93 Coupe and he was asking a grand, and it was a base model without even power steering...

Is it really that far fetched to get a grand for this even if it runs perfect and is loaded ?

BLUH BLUH

Take to car heaven and end it. lol

JDMinprogress

scrap it.
thats the only way you're going to get any $$ for it.

92-95 sedans are outdated and no one wants them.
(not too be a dick, but yours is in bad condition)..
most people don't wanna do body work, they'd rather you have a **** motor
and clean body.

BlitzSix

I disagree, it depends on the purpose of the car. If it's a hardcore beater to get to a-b for someone who doesn't have much money I'd rather have a mint motor as I wouldn't care about the body. Rust looks ugly, but a bad motor can make you spend hundreds of dollars on a almost worthless car, and that's not something that many people want to do as you'll never see the money back. With this car you can drive it for a few years without putting pretty much any money in it (other than what it needs for cert), and then scrap it. Buying the same car but with a mint body and bad motor would make you throw so much money away as the car still isn't worth much.

How much do you think I would get if I scrapped it? I would think parting it is a better idea, no?

My friend sold her accord, 91, completley rusted to ****, the brakes and rotors were gone (and rotors are VERY hard to do on that car, it's like 600 for a brake job at a mechanic), brown on brown, 365000 kms, for 400. So I would hope that I could get at least 2x that for mine..

Thanks for the comments tho

JDMinprogress

you can pick up a d-series motor for 100$. motor/tranny.
so what are these hundreds of dollars you speak of?
you also forget, we are in the so called "recession" so no one is willing to buy cars period.
you can try parting it, but alot of the people on these forums either have coupes/hatchbacks. and will only buy a sedan for a winter beater and aren't willing to spend more than 500-1000$ MAX.. and for the shape yours is in.. again, not to be a dick, but im promising you won't get an offer higher than 800$.

BlitzSix

You can pick up a motor/tranny, with unknown milage and in unknown condition, yes. Also, not everyone does work themselves... so... you can buy that motor for 100, then pay several hundred at least to install it, and you don't even know what condition it's in really (until you see it running). I might need misc sensors and whatnot .. it might be overheating, etc. You can't just swap in a new motor everytime the car needs something (well you can, but it's not necessarily a good idea).

I agree that people aren't buying cars, but I think the recession may actually be benificial for cars like this one because people are getting rid of their expensive cars that they can't afford but they still need beaters to get places so here is where my sexy beast comes in :P.

Don't worry about being a dick, I know the car isn't worth much and I'm not gonna get offended heh. I do believe I should be able to get 800ish for it.. I'll see what offers I get once I clean it up a little and take better pics and report back lol.

JDMinprogress

For the money to install, they'll be paying DOUBLE for bodywork! thats the difference!
and not all the time, d-series are the EASIEST and cheapest motors to find. you can go pretty much anywhere,
and find a cheap d-series. cash talk, if you were to offer someone $100-$200 for a d-series, most people will jump on it.
within a few minutes i found other cars for less than half you're asking price that are in just as good shape.. so it shows you what you're "competing" against for selling.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...QAdIdZ69988532

BlitzSix

Yes I know bodywork costs more but the point I'm making is that the buyer would not fix the body, as it's a beater and they don't care about it, but they HAVE to fix the engine to drive the car. Obviously no one is going to spend a grand to make this car "mint". They will drive it until it dies while spending as little money as possible on it and then scrap it. If you buy a car with engine problems and have to keep bringing it to a mechanic then ur spending a lot of money, plus the downtime etc completely defeats the purpose of buying a cheap a-b car in the first place.

If that ad is legit then yes it's a better deal, but I would bet that it needs quite a bit of things. A lot of people don't list the "bad" of the car and you don't find the stuff out until you see it. It's also shady as hell, it doesn't even say the year of the car and it's a picture of a ford there. He also spells "tire" wrong twice in the ad. And what Civic has a red interior ?

DumbasSi

Seems like it needs quite a bit of work. Cat, axel, body work. What does it need for a safety? The "mods" are very simple and shouldn't even be part of the equation. Parts installed a few years ago are hardly "new". I'd say $1000 tops the way it is. It is 17 years old and not exactly a high demand car.

starboy869

$1000 is over priced. That car is a $500 tops wreck.

honDuh

The market just aint there anymore either.
No one is buying cars like they used to.

I got a b20b swapped hatch for sale for retardly cheap opposed to the listing price i had it up in the summer time. almost 50% off.
And i had more interest in it in the summer time.
Doesnt make sense...

rick10

to be honest a 1000 is a little too much for your car. Maybe back in the days you could get that easily. Nowdays you can get better cars for a 1000. Also keep in mind the exhaust problem , body work , locks , etc

I really dont think you can much much more for parting it out , like others said the engine and tranny are not that much expensive , and thats pretty much all you can sell from this car , other parts are cheap and not in high demand.
Plus you would have to put all the time in taking out that parts

I went through a similar situation with my 93 jetta , 3 years ago , and man I got 650 for my car and let me tell you it was in a lot better condition than your car , most people thought it was a 97 ,98 but it had some minor issues that add it and lower the sell value of the car.

Like other also said , bodywork is much more expensive than changin parts on the car , and if you look around you can get much more decent cars for a grand

Anyhow good luck , you never know.

If i was going to sell your car i ll probably ask for 800 knowing that someone may pick it up for 700 $. Its only 300$ which is not much anyways.

Or you may get lucky like my friend who sold hi 93 hatch for 2500 and man nothing worked on that things , only thing that look good was that the car was light blue and lower (it looked pretty sporty). Some high school bought and never test drove it

rick10

here are a few ads for you to compared

95 civic for 900
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/cto/987377089.html

camry 93 - 1000
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/cto/986994657.html

92 civic - 500
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/cto/986936533.html

92 accord with v tech engine - 700
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/cto/985975937.html

93 altima - 500
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/cto/985942440.html

It seems that everyone is selling their cars. So many cars up for sell

s2000cr

Lots of people don't buy the shitboxes like they used to. I used to see loads of them on the streets but not anymore.

s2000cr

Also, list it with the tires and stuff and hope you get 1000. Nothing to part out really. If you can emission and safety, you can ask more then 1000...up to 1200 maybe.

Buddah

I do agree. I do not think you'll see offers for more than $1000. Truthfully speaking, the way it sits now, it's a little more than a fix-er-upper. As it sits now with the body damage etc, it may serve more use as a parts car but, pricing doesn't reflect it's label. As a parts car, I'd say ask for 700 obo and don't go below 500.

Bare in mind, used cars practically brand new are dirty cheap nowadays. Especially during the last few months. With what's been happening in the financial market place, a good friend of mine literally practically stole this car off the lot. For a 2008 CL600, he paid 55 g's out the door....only had 12000 kms on it. So you gotta think, what stands out with your car....what is it's best buying feature and think to yourself, how does it compare to others selling similar items and ask yourself, would i pay that much for this car knowing how much others are asking for theirs?

Just my 2 cents

Cheers