Notorious

Are you sure its FWD? I though most Talon TSI were AWD. Anyhow, Ive always liked talons.

bbarbulo

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do it... whatever repairs it needs can be taken care of with a couple of grand. DON'T do it expecting a reliable car though, you'll make a mistake there. But as a project, it's

imported_Cablerat

I predict... ..... KABOOOM!!!

imported_Torrey

Not on a 1g....

B18C|

couple grand...why a couple grand...i thought the engines were cheaper than honda engines...

VietSol

Those turbos that blow and stuff aren't...

The G2 Racer

The 14b is a good turbo as long as you don't push major psi on it cause it's not capable of it. The engines are cheap just look around.
1g talons did come in FWD. If it's just a TSi then it's FWD. TSi AWD are AWD.
Bruno is right they are very good project cars but once you start pushing a lot of power they tend to go boom.

Check out www.vfaq for every question a dsm n00b could have also lists some free mods.
www.dsmtuners.com is a good site with forums.

coreyhayman

i myself am looking at pickin up a talon, i might trade my monte carlo ss for a minte 91 tsi fwd.....its stock and all original, im also lookin at a 93 tsi awd.....iv heard thatthe awd's r **** on the hwy for some reason and that the fwd is alot better, obviosuly not off the line tho.

willie

FWD will spank AWD's on the highway due to weight

AWD will spank FWD off the line due to traction

take your pick, both have pro's / con's, I personally would take an awd cause highway driving really fast is too dangerous anways, and in snow AWD is nice to have

oh and remember to use ONLY 93 octane fuel, they require it
my buddy blew his talons motor when he put in normal fuel and ran the **** out of the car when he first got it and didn't know

The G2 Racer

Not to make fun of your buddy but any one into cars knows turbo cars need at least 92 octance.

I'd personally go for a AWD or FWD. Weight doesn't matter much to be, just add a bit more power.

coreyhayman

yea i think ima wait till i find a good deal on a awd...just cuzz hwy racing doesnt appeal to me anyways, i also want it to b good in the snow/rain and crap, and of course for the off the line performance....i know talons r expensive on insurance, i called and got a quote for 370amonth which i guess i can live with....iv decied to get a talon cuzz its a, decent on gas cuzz its only a 4banger not a big v8 like im feeding now,2..can b made a fast daily driver prettye asily without breakin the bank to much, asnd 3rd i dont see to many of themn around really....im thinking i like the 92-94 better then the 90-91 cuzz im not feelin the flip up headlights and the squarish lookin rear....altho sleepy eyes looks cool wen u do that mod to them....im not lookin to make it no flashy ride, i dont ant attention at all so im keeping thigns simple....black talon 92-94 talon, lowered, 95+ rims powdercoated in black, and no stupid loud *** bov....even tho ur all saying 'oh thats the best part of a turbo car' well if u ask any true dsmer he will tell u thats rice, why?....because by making it that loud your actually losing performance due to the fact that your venting to much air into the air(lol)instead of back into the intake, thus tricking ur ecu and ******* up your fuel curve...and thanks the g2 racer for the 92 octane thing, i myself did not know that.

willie

Corey, true DSM'ers consider it "rice" if you just vent the turbo to atmosphere, which does not include using a blow off valve, only by disconnected a line coming off the turbo or engine I can't remember exactly, but yes it tricks the ECU and sends out more fuel causing the car to lose performance and run very rich, a BOV will not make your car lose any power, some people who want there car to be a sleeper usually do not use a BOV

and when you say they are good on gas because they are a 4 banger, not really true, it costs around 40-50$ to fill the tank and they get 20mpg in the city and 25 on the highway, thats if you drive like a granny though

DoubaD

meh, my friend already blew his 94 engine 5 months after buying, not worth it to me, specialy since its rusting quickly as well, nothing but trouble

The G2 Racer

You can vent to atmosphere when running a maf translator. You'll run rich without one only when shifting, my friend tried it on his 2g for a bit with no problems. However there's no point in running a new CBV (compresser bypass valve) since the stock 1g can take a lot of punishment, it's normally an upgrade for the 2g guys.

SiknTwistedCiv

Okay, I owned and have been a member of Club DSM Canada for a long time now,
So here is what I have learned in my years of exsistance as a member.

90-94 1G Talons- Motor is bullit proof, you may hear different from some but most people will drop 1G motors into 2Gs Talons, The head has a better flow raito than any other. 1G BOV's "Blow Off Valves are better as well, as a stock BOV they will hold 20+ PSI when crushed. All 1G Talon's have tranny issues, the shift between 1st-2nd will always be rough no matter how good a driver you are that just the way they shift.

I think that your crazy not to tade your slightly modded Teg for a Talon expecially a 1G, with a few free mods, a boost controller and exhaust, I ran low 14's all day long on stock radials. Not to mention with only a little money invested your car will run faster than your Teg could ever dream of.

Just my .02.... You by far have the better end of the straw on this trade expecailly if its AWD.

imported_Torrey

Just so you know.... 93-94's can crankwalk too......

It has to do with the design of those engines, and the material used as opposed to the 90-91's. www.dsm.org for more info on that.

The JDM motor's are fairly cheap, 220hp, $1600. But they are old and need a lot of maintence before installing, tbelt, water pump, replace pulleys, and probably a rebuild.

I rather have a fwd turbo than awd. Awd are gas pigs and are slow on rolls.

imported_Torrey

True dsm'ers think anything is rice othter than motor mods. Most have STOCK suspension and exhaust!!!
(but get away with the exhaust part with a DUMP TUBE)

And your talking about venting the BOV to atmosphere. Here I'll attach a little pic to describe that situation.


See that tube I highlighted below the purple greddy bov.... thats the tube your talking about. When you remove that tube, and block off the intake inlet, it vents to atmosphere, creating a sound thats 100x louder than before.

shlammed

i have one question: who the **** cares about what other people think is rice?

SiknTwistedCiv

There are normally two types of people in a car club,
Go Fast, Go Show.

I personally like both, so who really does give a **** what other people think.


IMO buy that Talon, I does not cost that much to fix little things and if you need anymore info PM me and I will answer things for you and tell you where to look when it comes to these cars.

Don't listen and hate on this ride before you look yourself.

Cheers.

coreyhayman

i think the talon is what im lookin for, a easy to make fast, relativly cheap on gas, already turbo'd car with awd....i fill the monte carlos tank for 46dollars and it only lastas for 3 days of driving back and forth to work and wherever else i go......i make a 15min each way trip a day to work, and another 25min drive every other day to see my gf...i need a 4 banger.......but ya i want my talon to look fairly stock, i wanna ower it tho cuzz they sit way to high for my taste, and upgrade to the 98ish tsi wheels done in black, can u get a black fmic btw?....cuzz i dont want it to b so noticeable...