bibbyx2x2

Hey i recently changed my clutch master cylinder and my slave cylinder and my problem is currently that once I turn the car on I cannot put it in any gear. Although when the car is off it shifts smoothly? My friend recently replaced my clutch but never got it running due to changing the 2 cylinders listed above. Is it possible it's a transmission failure or possibly that he installed the clutch improperly? any help would be appreciated thanks!

tokyojoe

theres a good chance you have some air in the lines between the slave and master. There should be a bleeder screw on your slave. Its the same as bleeding the brake system. A quick way to get fluid from the master to the slave is to loosen the screw, have a friend hold their finger over the holl in the bleeder and pump the clutch till their finger gets wet. Just make sure to not alow the reserve on the master run dry.

If you have already done this and it is still giving you problems just pump the clutch a bunch of times. Hopefully this helps.

bibbyx2x2

ive tried pumping the clutch quite a bit of times dont think its that..couple as in like 10-12 times lol

ol Dusty

iTrader: (2)

open screw push down pedal, close screw, release pedal, repeat until the fluid coming out is a steady stream not sputtering with air. and yeah don't let the reserve run dry. as for it going into gear when it's off... don't do that you can mess up your tranny. it sounds to me like he installed your clutch okay but not the release bearing or the clutch fork that the slave pushes. if so you need to drop the tranny and re-install the bearing and fork properly but you can prolly check this by pulling back the rubber around the fork and looking in witha light and mirror. google images of how it should look or have someone who knows look for you.

bibbyx2x2

does anyone know how i can check if the fork/ release bearing was installed properly? and this sounds like a clutch problem right? not transmission related?

chris_v2

Your problem is your hydraulic clutch system. 99.999% sure.

Its not bled properly, or theres a leak. If you can't solve it, hand it over to a professional.

bibbyx2x2

theres no leak since fluid is maintaing level? you might be right about bleeding the clutch but i dont think so? any other possible suggestions on problems?

ol Dusty

iTrader: (2)

where are you located

bibbyx2x2

yonge and steeles

starboy869

it's not that hard to bleed a clutch line. It's a lot easier with two people

How I would do it

1. make sure mater cylinder is filled up
2. Use a clear rubber line with a bottle. An Old empty water/pop bottle will do
3. Press in the clutch and hold
4. Loosen bleeder screw until the fluid stops coming out. Check the clear line for air bubbles
5. tighten the bleeder screw.
6. Release clutch pedal and pump a few times
6. Repeat 3 to 6 while checking the fluid level in the mater cylinder

I don't see any issues in shifting gears while the engine is off.

bibbyx2x2

i've bleed it, it doesnt seem to fix the problem

Virus Design

i bet u 100 dollars that your buddy put the clucth disc backward, put the car in gear before you start it,it should move right away i did the same mistake when i was drinking putting my clucth in.

bseries_el

hahahaha. how can you put the clutch disc backwards!!!! you won't be able to put the pressure plate on there if you ever did. duhhhhhhhhh. even if you did put it on backwards, you will automatically see that the disc is not touching the surface of the flywheel nor the pressure plate. reason why is that the clutch disc's one side sticks out higher than the other side.

bseries_el

anyways, you can actually bleed the clutch system by yourself. unscrew the bleeder on the slave cylinder, fill up the resorvoi, now pump the clutch atleast 10 times with your hand and keep the pedal down to the floor when you stop pumping, now check for the resorvoi if its getting empty, if it does then fill it up back again, pump it 5 times and leave the pedal on the floor, fill up the resorvoi and tighten the bleeder screw, now release the pedal up and by the time you pump it back you should be able to feel the its hard again.

bseries_el

by the way, check your shifter linkages, I don't know how your friend took the tranny off but if you actually bend the linkages, it affects the leverage to mechanicaly shift the transmission.

bibbyx2x2

ill check the shifter linkages i dont know if this means something but when we were bleeding the clutch it would always go up like 80 percent of the way never that full 100%. It would be hard and come back by itself but it would always be able to be pulled a bit higher up?

bseries_el

well it shouldn't do that when you're bleeding the line. make sure that the bleeder screw is really loose for the fluid to squirt out. Also, have a friend check if the slave cylinder is pushing the forks, if not then there is a problem in the release bearing, maybe it was put on wrong. hopefully not. where are you located??? if youre close to sauga i'll help you. it shouldn't take 10 mins.

bibbyx2x2

im near yonge n steeles...can u explain more in detail how 2 check if the fork is pushing the slave

ol Dusty

iTrader: (2)

the slave is mounted on the engine and pionts toward the tranny. the fork and the slave make contact hidden inside the rubber boot on the tranny near the rad. if you grab the rubber part and feel the fork while haveing someone working the clutch you should feel it moving back and forth. if you take the two bolts out under the slave and then remove the rubber around it the fork will be sticking out of the tranny. the fork goes around the shaft and into the release bearing, the bearing pushes the pressure plate in and causes it to release the clutch disk. inside the tranny the fork is held in place on a stud with a rounded head similar to the end of the slave that pushes on the fork, by a metal clip wire that slides under the same ball that the fork sits on (you may have to read this I know even writing it is confusing but if you read this, look, and read again you should see what I'm talking about) you can prolly find diagrams on the tranny and clutch etc. to get an idea. if the clutch is somehow installed backwards or the fork isn't installed properly then the car won't go into gear while it's running.