Nova_Dust

It happens about once a day, sometimes none. What seems to be the problem is that sometimes, while the car sits in traffic, I put it in neutral. Then when I want to shift into first gear, it doesn't go in. Then all I needed to do is redo the shifting one more time and it goes in.

Doesn't seem to be a big deal, afterall, it did go into first gear. But what I am puzzling about is why it didn't in the first place? As far as I know, the only I have changed is transmission fluid. Cluth was told OEM ITR, with a Spoon flywheel.

Just wondering.

Thanks

Peter H

Out of curiosity, when you attempt to put the car into first gear and can not, do you release the clutch pedal and depress it again for your second attempt?

blitzed

yea i have to double clutch into first and reverse sometimes, your SUPPOSED TO(on driving tests and what have you) leave the car in gear and push the clutch in when your at a complete stop, lame i know

Nova_Dust

First attempt: depress clutch, shift into first gear but stops half way and I actually cannot push it in any further, like half way if you will. So it is not in first gear.

Second attempt: release clutch, depress clutch and shift into first gear and it works.

So basically, I did the same thing twice, except the first time it didn't work. It didn't happen today on the way to and from work. But it happened once on Monday I believe, and once last week.

BWek

What kind of tranny fluid are you using? How old is your clutch master?

Nova_Dust

Currently, GM Synchromesh, about 2 years and I am changing it soon. Clutch master cynlinder you ask? I think it is stock from 2000 hatch (you don't change it after swap right? haha, I am such a newb). But I just did a clutch flush about 2 weeks ago with Motul RBF600.

driven905

yeah it sounds like you might have some air in the lines ... when you press it twice, you build more pressure and then you press the clutch all the way and then it goes it ... i have somewhat the same problem, but i think if i press the clutch pedal all the way then it goes into first gear ...

Fr0z3N

On your first attempt, try keeping the clutch in and going into another gear before first and let us know if that works. IE Clutch down go into say 2nd then first, did it go in? also try 3rd to 1st or 4th to 1st and let us know.

Cynikal.Mindset

every single honda I have ever driven has done that...hell just about every fwd 5spd care I have ever driven has done that

bbarbulo

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i think sometimes the gears line up so that two 'peaks' are on top of one another so they won't engage. it's just a theory, I'm not actually sure. one thing I am sure about is if you try to force it you'll bend the shift forks, so just back it out, double clutch and try again. or slip it into another gear and go back to 1st.

dirtywat

If there was air in the hydraulic clutch lines he would more likely have problems shifting into any gear, not just 1st gear.

Is there a safety mechanism that makes it more difficult to shift into first to protect the engine and transmission?
and somehow the mechanism is still locked on occasion?

forcefedsi

shift into second with the clutch depressed and keep the clutch depressed while going into first... the same with reverse, go into 2nd first. Every Honda I've driven has done that once in a while.

chris_v2

It's not air in the line, it's not your clutch master cylinder (lol)

Sometimes when you go to shift you just hit a 'rough spot', so to speak, on the synchro assembly allowing it to be difficult to shift. No big deal really, almost all transmission with some mileage on them do it once in a blue moon. Mine does it every few days as well Charles. I wouldn't be worried. Changing tranny oil won't do anything either.

And Bruno, your theory is pretty interesting, you may be right.

BWek

I was just throwing the clutch master out there lol never know i'm surprised at how many people can't bleed a clutch...

I found my mazda did it alot and a few other cars with high km's have done it as well.

It makes sense that it could be the syncro's could just happen it be alined in a way that the peaks on the ring and the collar just happen to line up

even more so on a higher km's tranny where the peaks will be a bit flatter

The first thing i do is check tranny fluid it makes a huge differance

RedNeckRiceBurner

same here

Nova_Dust

It just happened again this morning haha. It went in on the third attempt, I was a bit worried causing a traffic stop haha.

Thanks for the great info guys. I deifnitely won't force it in, just like how I am with women. :P

Joker

ahaha... same thing happens to me ... it hgouth it was something with the shifter rebuild kit..cause my shifter seems to wobble like in neutral in other gears so i thought this problem was interrelated..???

cpdehart

I think this guy is right this happens to me sometimes and used to happen in my old tercel. would not go in to reverse or 1st sometimes and id just let of the brake a bit and let the car role a tiny bit and it would slide right in...

cpdehart

the wobble is because its not a cable shifter but its a rod so you get vibration.... or so i read somewhere

Joker

does it happen in other gears, like just say when the car is off, should u be able to move arond between gears without pressin the clutch down? alson the stiffness happens in other gears too