90hatchsi

I got pulled over in the same area last month. Cop said the car was too low and therefore "unsafe". The wheels don't rub, I'm only on 14" steelies. He wanted to tow the car and take it to a shop to raise the car. Shortly after that he said my calm attitude impressed him so much that he'll let me off on a warning.
It pays to be nice to cops even in the worst situations.

EK7_DriftMania

There is no new law out now that allow the cops to contact you insurance brookers about performance mods and the insurance have the rights not to insure you, becareful man.

EK7_DriftMania

I will go back to stock, I have been pulled over manytimes and gotten away with some, mostly speeding. But what really ticks my off was that COP, feel like getting a gun and shooting him that night. Usually I pay all my tickets and don't complain about it, this guy is really messed up. I don't know if anybody else besides me and 90hatchsi that have been to this area on a Friday night, there is alot of performance cars there and alot of people. He just wants to play, so I'll play, its all fun till somebody gets hurt, heh!

I don't care - I'll put $500 on the line and take a week off if I have to, I'll fight this ticket to my grave - Not letting him win!!!!!!!!!!!

imported_Popkorn

York Region cops have started calling the head office of insurance companies advising them that cars have been modified for racing use, etc.

SiR-Racer

Yes, that's sad but true

imported_Popkorn

Isn't the job of the cops supposed to be keeping the streets safe? Going and calling insurance companies is going too far. That's just harassment, cause what then? You switch insurance companies and you'll be back on the road again. There's no end.

Anyways if I was a cop, then I would leave all the modified imports on the road, that way it'll be easier to fill my monthly quota. Just a thought.

EK7_DriftMania

The cops spend too much time catching imports that the rest of city is in caos. Notice that we have a really high crime rate now, they should spend more time catching criminals. Damn cops!

cee_mon

what kinda taillights do you have? Stock? I mean the lenses. Can you see the bulbs throught the lense?

EK7_DriftMania

Yes they are stock, and you can not see the light bulbs. But I got pull over of the front. I got an agent to represent me, so I am not worrying right now.

imported_Popkorn

Whoa, you got an agent? Insurance doesn't even look at these kind of tickets. They're not moving violations. Just read the HTA, you'll notice that white lights are ok, and that with blue lights (they have to be flashing intermittently).

EK7_DriftMania

HTA section 142 (1-3) there are points being added, but you will not know that, they don't tell you (cops). Insurance companies knows everything about your car, somthings they will tolerate for sometimes, but if you keep pushing them with tickets, they will deem you as an unsafe driver etc... How do they know? now they give out a recipt, you keep the original one, the other part of the recipt goes to the insurance. The HTA (1-3) will cost you up to 2 points, they showed me the book, that's how I know. Points are points, they don't care, eventually you will reach that limit and you insurance will go up, that's how the points system works.

imported_Popkorn

If you got ticketed for your turn signals, then it would be HTA Section 142(6).

Requirements for signalling device

(6) A mechanical or electrical signal device shall clearly indicate the intention to turn, shall be visible and understandable during day-time and night-time from the front and from the rear of the vehicle for a distance of 30 metres, and shall be self-illuminated when used at any time from one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise.

But then if you got ticketed for not signalling, then yes, it is 2 points for not signalling. Of course the police don't have to tell you if there are points added to your record, it's up to you to find out. For anyone that is interested in the demerit point system. Check here: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dan...er/demerit.htm

Also the ministry keeps the white portion of the ticket, it is for their own record. Also if the officer does not submit the white portion to the ministry within 5 days of issuing you the ticket, your ticket is automatically dropped. Insurance companies access the online database to retrieve your driving record from the ministry whenever your policy renews. And they only look at moving violations. How does having an improper muffler, or different lights affect the way you drive?

EK7_DriftMania

Popkorn: I agree with you bro. but with my financial enigma, I can not afford to take that risk of rising insurance. I know that they don't care about muffler, etc.... I am still coming to court for the ticket, the date has been set along time ago. Hoping that he will not show up.

imported_Popkorn

Of course man, everyone should fight every ticket no matter how minor it is. There's a high chance you will be let off with a lesser charge/fine. Also the chances are even higher when you change the initial court date.

cronus

Ya man..

My buddy has a green 95 civic hatchback and he used green blubs for his turn signals.

We got pulled over around 1am driving home from tim hortons.

$110 dollar fine for the turn signals.

2 days later he was pulled over and recieved another $110 dollar fine.


We went out to a store called Tooltime in whitby and replaced all his bulbs.

A day later he was pulled over and saw all the lights had been changed and just let us go. It was the same fricken butch police woman as the first time we got pulled over.

Anyways thats my story, they pick on all import people and its ******* retarded.

imported_Popkorn

That's not right, they should be able to see that you received the same ticket 2 days earlier in their computer. It should show up as pending. So they can't issue the ticket. The 2nd ticket should be automatically dropped.

I thought I read somewhere you are allowed to have green signals.

imported_dented dx

thats pure BS man. fight it forsure, call in the cop. thats pretty much harrasment! i'd be pissed!

cronus

Nah man, they can give you a ticket like an hour later if they catch you again.

Its like speeding.

What your suppost to do is drive directly to your house or to a shop and get it fixed on the spot.. thats the ONLY way to avoid another ticket.

You have to have white or amber turn signal lights, trust me.... that butch cop pounded that thought into my head hehe

imported_Popkorn

That's not right, you have the right to fight the ticket. You're not guilty of the offence until the judge deems that you are guilty. And it's not like speeding because the turn signal colour ticket isn't a moving violation like speeding. You can be ticketed again if you are found guilty by the judge and then you still continue to commit the offence.

I just remember some guys (who are very familiar with the HTA) mentioned that you are allowed white, amber, and green. I'm not sure where he read it, but I'll ask him.

imported_Popkorn

Nevermind, I found it

HTA Section 62, subsection 11 and 13

Identification lamps

(11) When on a highway at any time from one-half hour before sunset to one-half hour after sunrise and at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less, every commercial motor vehicle or combination of a commercial motor vehicle and a trailer having a length in excess of 9.2 metres or a width in excess of 2.05 metres shall carry three lighted lamps displaying green or amber lights at the front, except in the case of a public vehicle which shall display amber lights at the front, and three lighted lamps displaying red lights at the rear, and the lights of each colour shall be evenly placed not less than 150 millimetres nor more than 310 millimetres apart along a horizontal line as near the top of the commercial motor vehicle or combination of a commercial motor vehicle and a trailer as the permanent structure permits, and shall be visible for distances of 150 metres from the front and rear respectively of the commercial motor vehicle or combination of a commercial motor vehicle and a trailer.

Rear identification lamps on tractor without trailer

(12) Despite subsection (11), a truck tractor driven on a highway without a trailer or semi-trailer is not required to carry the three red lamps displaying red lights to the rear.

Side marker lamps

(13) When on a highway at any time from one-half hour before sunset to one half-hour after sunrise and at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less, every motor vehicle or combination of vehicles having a length in excess of 6.1 metres shall carry not fewer than four lighted side marker lamps, one of which shall be located on each side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles near the front and shall display a green or amber light and one of which shall be located on each side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles near the rear and shall display a red light and each of which lights shall be visible for a distance of 150 metres from the side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles upon which it is located; provided that a vehicle or combination of vehicles may carry four reflectors approved by the Ministry instead of the side marker lamps required by this section; and provided further that, if the clearance lamps upon the left side of any vehicle or combination of vehicles display lights visible for a distance of 150 metres from the left side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles, it is not necessary to carry side marker lamps as required by this subsection on the left side of the vehicle.