locosir

Today is by far the worst day in my life.
Was crusing on hwy27 Northbound when i hit a light. light went green and i booted it without noticing the cop down the street. go through first hit second and nottice cop so i begin to brake even though i'm hitting 6000rpms on 2nd bout to switch to third. when i slow down and pass it off as nothing. next light at the esso gas station i see gas at 70.5 so i pull in and notice the popo pull in behind me and get out and telll me "Street racing is illegal reverse and park on the side" so he walks back to his car parks at the gas station i go around park beside him. he comes out get my driver lisc. ownership and i can't seem to fin my insurance paper, only my temporary one bcuz i just switched to state farm Nov 1st. well anyways after 10 mins he gets out comes to my car looks at my tires goes all around my car checking all of them. finally tell me to pop the hood open. so i pop it open and go out. i ask him is something wrong. he doesn't resond. he then says whats this???? pointing at my CAI i say "oh its an intake my car came like that(Seriously i bought it like that off the dealer, not honda.) so he goes back to his car. another ten more minutes and he decides to come back out adn ask me once again if i found my insurance card and i say no cuz i just got my insurance. so he goes back to the car and comes back 20 mins later with 3 yellow sheets. one for supposedly going 160 on a 70km/h zone. bulll cuz it won't reach that high on second and i noticed him right as switched to third cuz i used it as motor brake so my brake lights don't show. the second one for failure to present insurance card. third illegaly modified car. he says that i have to go to court dec 17 in newmarket!!!!! and to bring proof of insurance. to get my car restored to original and bring proof. and third to fight my speeding ticket.
Now i'm totally shocked cuz no way was i going 160km/h wasn't even 10m that i saw him off the lights so no way could i have reached that speed so fast and i used third to brake i wasn't even in third!!!

well that my story for toda, now i have to go get a court date on the 17th to fight them. but don't know how about to go fight the speeding ticket. i wasn't going 160 thats for surenot even 100's....
anyways if anyone knows a goood lawyer to help me out please msg or reply. don't need my insurance going up for such a stupid mistake.
any help is appreciated..

imported_gatherer

ummmm yeah ok then

kimchee

That sucks. I goto Humber, so I always use hwy 27. I never do anything stupid cuz there is ALWAYS cops on the somewhere.

A ticket for a CAI? You know what, I'm sure you are one of 1 million or more cars in Ontario that has a modified intake system like the CAI. But, I think it is illegal none-the-less. Don't quote me on that, but I think anything not stock is illegal in Ontario.

Call up X-Copper or something. I hear that they win your case or it's free. But about the CAI, just install the original intake back and say the cop is lying and thought it was modified... he can't say ****, it's not like he took a picture or something.

For the insurance, FIND YOUR PRINTED PINK SHEET. I got booked for temporary as well. Go to court and show your printed sheet, you'll win that case.

Speeding.... ask X-Copper.

Hope this helps

locosir

yeah gonna call x-copper now anyone know their rates ????
thanx

Cynikal.Mindset

idiot

scarlemthug

you should have asked to see the radar gun. I believe you can get information on when the gun was last calibrated etc and usually they arent done often so the ticket would get thrown out.

Cynikal.Mindset

okay well also u were atleast goin 80 if what u say is true, hittin 6000rpm in 2nd about to switch into third...for some reason I think u were hittin 3rd at 6grand for the cop even think about pullin you over in a 70kmh zone...also u say you saw the cop 10m off the line, so thats like 30ft so thats about what like 1second and you were already tearing through 2nd on your way to 3rd? thats a super fast car bro, u musta been doin the speed indicated by the officer...I hope you tell the courts this very story

0-80kmh in 1.5 sec, screamin out only 2 gears at 6k rpm a pop...story is whack man

locosir

welll smart guy he was on the opposite corner of langstaff i said 10m to be safe but it was alot less than that i was doing 6000rpms but noticed him there and dropped it to third to use motor brakes. but whatever don't have time to argue with your ***. so if you wanna help post if not then then keep your commments to yourself. i don't need more ****. i realised what i did wrong no need to bash it in more. i came for help not toget bashed...
i ain't being rude just don't need ur **** right now

Pimpin-EL

damn....i wish u luck....i have a few tickets myself....for such a high speedin ticket, I suggest u get a ticket fighter....i use some guy at midland n finch n he charges me 250 a ticket....n if its on the same day n time i get 2, then its still 250....last time i switched lanes n a truck switched at the same time, i saw juss in time, so i switched bak, but i forgot to signal, so i got an improper lane change ticket, n i forgot my ownership on the same day, so there goes 2 tickets, but Mckington, quoted me 250 for both tickets....

Cynikal.Mindset

less than 10m? guy...not my fault your story doesnt make sense...cuz ur sayin u rinsed out 2 whole gears through an intersection

WHATEVER!

locosir

i didn't rinse out 2 gears i said i was going on second about to hit 6000rpms and then i saw the cop so i switched and braked
on second gear onto 6000rpm i wonder what that does 100 or 90 so no way was i doing 160kmh

TranceaddicT

fighting is pointless...

i also go to humber... so i take 27north, and so far this semester i only have seen 2 cops wit radar>> and once i was soo lucky i didnt get pulled over.. i think i was doin 90-95. next time dont book on 27.. cops there always..

imported_gatherer

Cynical you tell 'em....


seriously I posted the ummm yeah ok then comment to indicate most arn't going to give you sympathy.... While I agree that doing 160 in second is impossible using a stock honda transmission (from any honda) I don't think the cops radar gun can be out far enough to double speeds. it is quite possible with some engine transmission combinations to hit 160 in third. Anyways that works out to more then double the limit well over 50 over so you might not want to drive because most likely your license is suspended... which is something that is required to happen.

Gallagher

dont hire anyone its useless, they plead u guilty and go nowhere, i know from experience, go fight it yourself and prepare yourself properly...

Steve

The G2 Racer

I think the intake tickets is bull**** but I haven't been pulled over and had my hood popped in ages soooo.

Buddah

I don't know the situation of the story because I wasn't there. None of us were except for locosir. He's the only one who knows what happened. And he knows the reprocutions of his actions. We as a club are here to help each other. Whether locosir is a member or not, we should be trying to help him figure out his situation and not make fun or insult him. If you children cannot play nice, I'll have to send you people to the "camp-site". (you know who you are)

Cheers,
Buddah.

motti

His story smells bad. He admits going through the gears hitting 6000 rpm and admits backing off only when he saw the cop. This makes him look like just another of those redline-screaming jerks that curse our streets and give all import drivers a bad name.

We should be trying to help him figure out his situation? As in beat the charges? Oh very good.


TCC a couple of years ago supposedly took a strong stand against that type of driving. Has that stand evaporated?

It's one thing to help someone with a question of legal interpretation of law, especially where it pertains to accidents, insurance issues, or equipment violations.

It's quite another to help someone beat charges for extreme driving behaviours. Those types of drivers should not be on the roads. They deserve heaps of scorn and not help remaining on the roads where they will continue to pose a danger to others.

So let him suffer the repercussions of his actions. Let him feel the scorn of his peers, and maybe he and others who would emulate that driving behaviour might finally get the message that wannabe-racer driving is socially unacceptable and that those who do so are on their own. Nobody should be trying to help this guy out.

motti

There is no legal requirement for the cop to show you the radar gun.

motti

That's bad advice, especially from the standpoint of encouraging someone to perjure themself while under oath on the stand.

With the advent of ERASE, a lot of cops have received in-depth training of what to look for when it comes to illegal mods.

The cop doesn't have to take a picture. All he has to do is give evidence of what he observed. Based on his training and his experience, he inspected the engine compartment and noted illegal modifications to emissions-related equipment.

The cop's next line of evidence will be to state that our boy-racer confirmed his observation by admitting it was an intake. Anything else our boy-racer may have admitted or said to the cop is also fair game for the cop to testify about while on the stand.

So, when our boy-racer tries to tell the judge that the cop is lying, all he will manage to do is completely destroy his own credibility about anything else he will try to say in his defence. The judge will think that if he is lying on one part of the charges against him, that anything else he tries to say in his defence with respect to his other charges is also suspect.

This is the fastest and easiest way to obliterate any chance at acquittal and at leniency when sentence and fines are imposed.

imported_kane2k

That 160 ticket sounds like a punishment ticket to force you into court. Think of how long it would take to hit 160 in an SiR. Unless locosir was hammering it for at least a half mile along the 27, there's no way he hit that speed. There's no way that traffic on the 27 was clear enough for him to push it for that long. That speed also does not lend itself to pulling into a gas station a block away while using engine braking to do most of the work.

Some people brought up the radar gun. I don't think the cop got him on radar. Something about the number 160 makes it seem a little made up.

My advice is to get the cop on the stand and get him to state all of the details of how he observed you and pulled you over. Get some info on distances between relevant points in the case, like distance from intersection to gas station. You said you were accelerating off the light, did you come to a complete stop? Were you at least slowed down to something under 20 or so?

Break out the physics textbook and come up with some numbers, which will not match the cops story if he made stuff up for the speeding ticket. i.e. how long would it take you to get to 160(I would suggest using a 0-100mph stat from a car magazine if you can find it for your car, don't qadmit in court that you ever took your car up there). Your car is travelling 33 m every second at 160. Were there other cars on the road around you, get the cop to establish this. A car moving at 160 km/h does not make any sense if there were any cars around. Get the 100mph to zero numbers for your car as well, match this to the distance to the gas station and the fact that you didn't hit your brakes immediately.

In short, going 0 - 160 km/h - 0 again takes a lot of road. There is most likely not enough space between lights for an SiR to do this.

To the rest of the people who decided to use this post to tell the guy he's at fault, I hope you feel good about yourselves. Did ranting on him relieve any sexual frustration? Damn, the guy asks for help and you call him a liar and tell him he deserves every bit of it for, gasp, redlining 2 gears in a 70km/h zone????
What he did was immature, no doubt, but that ticket sounds made up and punitive given the information available to us.