Just got pulled over on the 407
26-Oct-2008, 04:21 PM
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03-Jan-2009, 03:14 PM
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HTA 128(13) The speed limits prescribed by this section or by a regulation or by-law passed under this section or set under section 128.0.1 do not apply to,
(a) a fire department vehicle as defined in section 61 while proceeding to a fire or responding to, but not returning from, a fire alarm or other emergency call;
(b) a motor vehicle while used by a person in the lawful performance of his or her duties as a police officer; or
(c) an ambulance as defined in section 61 while responding to an emergency call or being used to transport a patient or injured person in an emergency situation. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 128 (13).
Though the cop was speeding at 124 kmph, the funniest part is that this guy didn't even notice that he was passing that cop. (a) a fire department vehicle as defined in section 61 while proceeding to a fire or responding to, but not returning from, a fire alarm or other emergency call;
(b) a motor vehicle while used by a person in the lawful performance of his or her duties as a police officer; or
(c) an ambulance as defined in section 61 while responding to an emergency call or being used to transport a patient or injured person in an emergency situation. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 128 (13).
If he was going just a little faster than the cop, then any properly observant driver should have been able to notice the cop. That suggests to me a couple of possibilities - one, our hero wasn't paying proper attention to traffic around him, especially on the 407 where traffic is usually fairly light, and/or two, our hero was travelling SO MUCH faster than the cop that he didn't even have a chance to recognize the cop until it was too late anyways. Either way, he got let off with a slap on the wrist with that 15-over ticket.
The cop's notebook will contain what happened from the cop's viewpoint, ie rate of closure, apparent rate of speed while passing the cop, and the cop's speed at that time as per the cruiser's calibrated speedometer.
If he does decide to take it to trail, I wouldn't be surprised if the Crown decides to bump it back to the prediscount speed. An "R" appearing or not on the ticket makes no difference with what happens in court. It's the cop's notes and testimony that counts. I wonder what the cop's testimony on the stand would be.
Last edited by FiveO; 07-Jan-2009 at 02:29 AM.
07-Jan-2009, 12:47 AM
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HTA 128(13) The speed limits prescribed by this section or by a regulation or by-law passed under this section or set under section 128.0.1 do not apply to,(a) a fire department vehicle as defined in section 61 while proceeding to a fire or responding to, but not returning from, a fire alarm or other emergency call;
(b) a motor vehicle while used by a person in the lawful performance of his or her duties as a police officer; or
(c) an ambulance as defined in section 61 while responding to an emergency call or being used to transport a patient or injured person in an emergency situation. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 128 (13).
I guess police cars get just a little bit more then fire trucks....
I wonder if a police officer has ever ticketed a fire truck for speeding when the fire truck was not responding to a call.....
07-Jan-2009, 01:14 AM
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interesting stuff... personally I thought they had to be responding to an emergency like an Ambulance or Fire truck ... I was always under the impression they had to have their lights going...
I guess police cars get just a little bit more then fire trucks....
I wonder if a police officer has ever ticketed a fire truck for speeding when the fire truck was not responding to a call.....
I guess police cars get just a little bit more then fire trucks....
I wonder if a police officer has ever ticketed a fire truck for speeding when the fire truck was not responding to a call.....
BAM!!!
http://www.torontocivics.com/tccv5fo...ght=fire+truck
07-Jan-2009, 04:08 AM
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15-Feb-2009, 09:00 AM
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Honestly DONT PAY IT.
Go to court and take your chances. If you get convicted, no matter how small the ticket amount is, even if there is no points, it will likely affect your insurance rate for the next 3 years. The increase in your rate over a 3 year period is likely more than if you do get convicted of the non reduced charge.
The purpose of a reduced ticket is to push you into accepting a conviction. Its an obvious tactic to make you choose the reduced ticket, and give up any hope of clogging the traffic court system even further. Not only that, you are paying court costs in your ticket amount anyway, might as well use the services for that cost.
Go to court and take your chances. If you get convicted, no matter how small the ticket amount is, even if there is no points, it will likely affect your insurance rate for the next 3 years. The increase in your rate over a 3 year period is likely more than if you do get convicted of the non reduced charge.
The purpose of a reduced ticket is to push you into accepting a conviction. Its an obvious tactic to make you choose the reduced ticket, and give up any hope of clogging the traffic court system even further. Not only that, you are paying court costs in your ticket amount anyway, might as well use the services for that cost.
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