Just got pulled over on the 407
 

Hey guys, I just got pulled over in the fast lane in the 407 going west. I was in the left outer lane, and there was OPP in the lane to my right. I did not see him, and I passed him.

He pulled me over, and said "I saw you beside and I was doing 124km/h, and then you passed me". So I said I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic. So he took my licence, registration, etc. went back the the car and wrote me a ticket.

Now here's the interesting part: He said he reduced me to 115 km/h, and no points. So I asked him if he had a radar gun. He looked down and said no. So I said ok, and I went on my way. I had a friend with me, and he saw everything. Given that he did not have a radar gun, how can he have reduced my speed to 115, when he didn't know how fast I was actually going? Also, he said he was speeding himself.

What do you think? Do I have a worthy case to fight the charge?

always always fight it...you're not guilty until you go to court

He dosent have to have you on radar. Cop cars have calibrated speedo's, its not as exact as radar, but it will hold up in court.

He gave you a break with the reduction to 15 over, but take it to court and see if he dosent show.

courts can reserves his decision and give you the non reduce ticket too

cops have no speed limit.
don't need a radar.
can use their speedo.

your fawked.

I know, but how can they give me a non reduced ticket when they don't know how fast I was going?

I can still say that I was going with the flow of traffic though, no? Everyone on the 407 does 130 average

He could give you the 124 unless he had followed you at the higher speed.

Nope. You were still speeding.

Edit: reminds me of a tatic they used to employ in the US. A cop comes down the ramp and does 65 for a bit. Then he speeds up to 75 and some people follow. Go around a corner or crest a hill and bam. Cops on each side of the road and no where to hide. I don't think they do that anymore as its like entrapment, although it's done in a marked car.

How much is it? $50 bucks? If so just pay it.

Yeah 50 and change

no points...

If it wont cost you anything go to court, worst is you pay the ticket. If you have to take time off work or something its not going to be worth it, just pay it.

just pay the $52.50 ticket, u were speeding so suck it up

Well yea, but my query was that so was the cop, so I was gauging the validity of the ticket...

unfortunately my friend... the police feel they are above the law and not that they're only there to uphold the law.

50 bucks and no points.. your lucky, just pay it

don;t pay it and skip off to mexico

Fight it and say that you were going with the flow of traffic... if its your first ticket they may let it go. In all honesty 124 is not that unreasonable and you right by saying it has become a social norm, but social norms are not laws unfortunately.

the $ and #points doesn't really matter.The 50 dollars is nothing compared to what the insurance company might do. This is a perfect opportunity for them to ask for more money. Fight it for sure!

X2!

I'd just pay the ticket and hope that your insurance don't find out. But with no points, it's likely they won't raise your premium. Next time you go out for chicken wings, just order half as much as you use to, and do this for 3 or 4 times and then you'll get that money back. Lol. Good luck!