hkalltheway

Hey. I was coming back from Niagara falls last night; had a radar detector on...I was driving, and I overtook this car from the improper lane, and I was going quite fast. He turns out to be an undercover, and he pulls me over. Asks for my license and "radar warning device." Without any argument, I give both to him. Then he comes up with one ticket (which has options to plead guilty or go to court), and one summons form. The ticket was for the radar warning device. The summons was for doing 151 km/h on a 100 posted limit. There is no fine on that written anywhere. He just said I have to appear in court. What should I do? About the radar detector, should I plead guilty, or go to court? Also, what's the option of plead guilty with an explanation? What does that do? Since this is my first offense, do you think I can fight it on my own? I really need help. Thanks.

imported_1sicsol

Dont worry you should be fine if you take BOTH them to court. The speeding ticket you can AT LEAST dropped to 149 so its 4 points and set fine NOT 6 points and maximum $5000 fine ETC.

Im not sure about the radar detecter. They dont like those...

I dont understand, 151 is not fast for me, as for most modified hondas can do 250 no prob...DAm highways.

imported_dmacbo

get a lawyer or go to points, the speeding ticket could be taken down, not sure about the radar detector, they aren't too fond of those

hkalltheway

one more thing. With the radar warning device, is it considered a moving violation? Will I get demerit points, and will it affect my insurance? Secondly, with the speeding ticket, how much should I expect my insurance to rise? thanks

[1sL0CiviC]

mine doubled........with 2 speeding tickets
both of them minor, yours is a magor ticket (if you dont get it reduced)

radar device, well, you'll get it reduced atleast, i think its a 3** dollar fine

imported_dmacbo

insurance wise: anything over 3 points expect to pay tons of money more, if you get 6 points, you may as well bend over

imported_Slvr-Bullet

Ummm...how did he know you had a radar detector??

imported_nautica_t

i heard that some police vehicles are spically equiped to detect radar devices, could be wrong though, but that's what i heard.

imported_dmacbo

yup, most cop cars have radar detector dectectors
im pretty sure all opp have them

SiR-Racer

how quickly did he pull you over after you passed him? because he would need to pace you for a specific distance before he could pull you over. he cant just estimate your speed as you flew past him and pull you over immediately without actually following you and pacing you.

you're probably screwed for the radar detection device though.

imported_echien

Well thn I'm going to use my trace buster buster!!!



I didn't realize 50 over was a 6 point and $5000 charge!
Holy cow I gotta slow down!

imported_Slvr-Bullet

But don't radar dectector companies like BELTRONICS make VG2 (radar detector detectors) immune detectors?? So they shouldn't be able to pick up that you have one. Unless they could see it.

[1sL0CiviC]

yeah, but the police use the VG2 detectors
so its like a radar detector detector

EL_Sport

Yup, those ones can't be detected by the radar detector detectors. Only way to get caught is if the cops sees it.

hkalltheway

basically, I zoomed past him...then my detector went off, and I instantly slowed down. That's when I think he figured I have a detector. Then for about 30 seconds, he was pacing me, and I was going at 120, and he eventually pulled me over...He pulled me over when he was pacing me at 120. Would that help my case?

NoSpleeny

Over 50 is a summons to court. There will be no set fine on it and it can become a suspension of your licence.

I read on a back of a TTC once..

20 over..
30 over...
40 over....
50 over..... See you in court.

canuck-mx6

OPP uses another radar detector detector as of October 2001. Check out http://www.speedzones.com. It is called the spectre



There are presently no radar detectors that are invisible to it.

illmatic_si

I had a detector confiscated once.. luckily I was in an apartment complex parking lot (private property), so the cop couldn't issue a ticket.

regarding both charges, set a court date and pull a no-show the day of. have a friend come in your place and inform the court that you were unable to be present due to a midterm exam. you will have to post-phone the trial to a later date, and do the same thing at the next trial date. its highly unlikely the cop will show up after post-phoning 2 times.. unless he is a real hard-***.

if he does show, you can try pleading not guilty to the detector. say the detection device was non-functional (broken) and you were only using it for the digital-compass feature. your cousin who lives in vancouver gave it to you cause it doesnt work. hehe

for the speeding, be cool and they might cut you some slack with the fine, but as far as I know you can't negotiate the speed or points after the ticket has been written.

good luck!!!

SiR-Racer

yes that definitely helps your case. he cant give you a ticket for 151 if all you did was pass him and then slow down. since he only paced you while you were doing 120 then you should only get a ticket for 120. he has no evidence that you were doing 151

hkalltheway

Hey. I called points and xcopper. I explained this to them...but the person at xcopper said that what if he already caught me on radar and then paced me? Is there any other way out? Otherwise, do you think I can handle this case on my own and reduce it to 4 points, or am I better off with xcopper or points? Cuz they say they can also probably reduce it to 4 points...but is it worth it? They're charging around 600 dollars.