Court on Tuesday
08-Aug-2004, 07:43 PM
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Court on Tuesday
Well after almost 8 months of waiting my court date has arrived for my speeding ticket. The set fine is $359 for doing 102 in a 60.
My beef is that there is no way in hell I could get going that fast from a red light to where the radar picked me up. Cop was on the left side of the road and traffic going the opposite direction could easily have influenced the radar.
Any ideas on how to prove my case, besides the helpful document on this site?
My beef is that there is no way in hell I could get going that fast from a red light to where the radar picked me up. Cop was on the left side of the road and traffic going the opposite direction could easily have influenced the radar.
Any ideas on how to prove my case, besides the helpful document on this site?
09-Aug-2004, 10:47 AM
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If you want to go after that opposing traffic thing you will have to get the cop to say it for you.
I said this before in a previous post but get the cop to establish a large field of vision for the radar gun. Instead of asking him how far the radar gun can see, imply that he was too far away to accurately get your speed, he will then come up with a large number for the distance the radar gun works. Then imply that he probably didn't target you properly, he will then tell you that the radar gun has a ****** of however many degrees. Get an answer in degrees from the cop, if he doesn't know then start picking on his apparent ignorance about the gun. Once you have a range and ****** you can pull out a calculator and come up with the size of the area the cop was surveying to get that speed.
The formula is Range*sin(Angle). If he says the radar can see 1 km and has a ****** of 30 degrees then he just told you that the speed that showed up on his radar gun belonged to a car in a triangle that was 1 km long and 500m wide. Assuming you were on a road with two lanes going each way, that's a lot of space and if there was traffic then he could have been picking up a speed for a car he couldn't see.
You could present this all in court perfectly and the judge can still find you guilty because odds are, if you're in traffic court, you were doing something wrong. But good luck.
I said this before in a previous post but get the cop to establish a large field of vision for the radar gun. Instead of asking him how far the radar gun can see, imply that he was too far away to accurately get your speed, he will then come up with a large number for the distance the radar gun works. Then imply that he probably didn't target you properly, he will then tell you that the radar gun has a ****** of however many degrees. Get an answer in degrees from the cop, if he doesn't know then start picking on his apparent ignorance about the gun. Once you have a range and ****** you can pull out a calculator and come up with the size of the area the cop was surveying to get that speed.
The formula is Range*sin(Angle). If he says the radar can see 1 km and has a ****** of 30 degrees then he just told you that the speed that showed up on his radar gun belonged to a car in a triangle that was 1 km long and 500m wide. Assuming you were on a road with two lanes going each way, that's a lot of space and if there was traffic then he could have been picking up a speed for a car he couldn't see.
You could present this all in court perfectly and the judge can still find you guilty because odds are, if you're in traffic court, you were doing something wrong. But good luck.
09-Aug-2004, 04:22 PM
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Thanks for the informative reply.
I conceit that I was speeding, but my beef is that the cop seemed to pull the number out of his ****. I even asked for some proof and was blown off.
If he wasn't such a jerk I wouldn't have been so upset, hopefully he doesn't show.
I conceit that I was speeding, but my beef is that the cop seemed to pull the number out of his ****. I even asked for some proof and was blown off.
If he wasn't such a jerk I wouldn't have been so upset, hopefully he doesn't show.
13-Aug-2004, 12:19 PM
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Just make sure that you don't admit to speeding, at all, in court. The instant that you state for the record that you were travelling at all faster than the speed limit, the judge will interrupt you and tell you that the trial is over and you can pay the ticket in 90 days. Or he'll let you finish speaking before he tells you the trial is over.
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