Traffic tickets, accidents, insurance Discuss legal issues, emissions testing, illegal modifications, etc....

Charter of Rights....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 27-Apr-2002, 07:39 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
PULOVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9,255
Charter of Rights....

11. (b) sums it.....but YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT TO SAY IN COURT to use this to your advantage. (a general rule that most courts hold is 10 - 12 months. Anything over a year).....
Look on Google for "askov case" in the Canadian web pages for more info....
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL AND PENAL MATTERS.
11. Any person charged with an offence has the right

(a) to be informed without unreasonable delay of the specific offence;
(b) to be tried within a reasonable time;
(c) not to be compelled to be a witness in proceedings against that person in respect of the offence;
(d) to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal;
(e) not to be denied reasonable bail without just cause;
(f) except in the case of an offence under military law tried before a military tribunal, to the benefit of trial by jury where the maximum punishment for the offence is imprisonment for five years or a more severe punishment;
(g) not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission unless, at the time of the act or omission, it constituted an offence under Canadian or international law or was criminal according to the general principles of law recognized by the community of nations;
(h) if finally acquitted of the offence, not to be tried for it again and, if finally found guilty and punished for the offence, not to be tried or punished for it again; and
(i) if found guilty of the offence and if the punishment for the offence has been varied between the time of commission and the time of sentencing, to the benefit of the lesser punishment.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lookie what I found........

November 26, 1997

REPORT CONDEMNS GOV'T FOR MISMANAGED MILLIONS

By JEFF HARDER - Queen's Park Bureau

TORONTO - Criminals, students and dangerous drivers are benefiting from government mismanagement, auditor Erik Peters says in his 1997 report.

The 315-page value for money review found growing backlogs in provincial court, hundreds of millions of dollars in uncollected traffic fines, overdue student loans and a high-cost young offender system that can't measure its worth.

There are more than 70,000 court cases that have been delayed beyond the eight-month Askov limit, which puts them at risk of being thrown out due to unreasonable delay. The Askov ruling saw 50,000 cases tossed out in the early '90s when the NDP were in power.

Peters told a Queen's Park news conference that provincial courts are more congested now than they ever were under Bob Rae's NDP.

"Yes, the number has increased," he said. "The number is staggering. They have to come to grips with the situation."

When an offender does get to court and is hit with a fine, there is no guarantee the government will collect the penalty, Peters found. Fines of $316.5 million have been sitting on the shelf for as long as two years without any collection effort, he stated. Peters said high-speed drivers and other lawbreakers are rarely pursued for the cash.

"I have met people that think it is a badge of honor to amass parking and speeding tickets," he said.

Management Board chairman Chris Hodgson, who oversees the provincial Central Collection Service, said he is trying to fix the problem with privatization.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


This is a very typical example of how the media conveniently lump "dangerous drivers" and "high-speed drivers" together into one group. This is how most people get brainwashed into thinking that exceeding a stupid speed limit makes them a criminal. From this news article we can draw some conclusions:

The province wants you to believe that you are a dangerous driver just because you exceeded the speed limit.
The province wants your money, as if you are not paying enough taxes already.
$316.5 million of uncollected fine in two years? And this is just the uncollected part. God knows how much money the province has already collected in just two years. It must be in billions.
On the bright side, a powerful weapon we have is the Askov case law, which puts an eight-month cap on the province's allowed time to give you a court date. It looks like things are getting better and better for us and worse for the province.
To give you a picture of how clogged up the courts are, reported by a helpful reader of this page, all the courts in big metropolitan cities like Toronto have cases backed up for up to 15 months. In the Scarborough courts, they are throwing out all the minor speeding charges, and only try the more serious offences such as leaving the scene of an accident, driving without license/insurance etc. Even the cops are told not to bother to show up for speeding cases and they can't claim overtime pay. Courts in smaller towns obviously don't have this problem (yet!), but we've got to try as hard as we can to jack up the cases those courts have to handle. Please tell your friends to fight their speeding tickets especially if they are in Toronto. It's a sure win situation.

(that it, no more typing for at least 1/2 an hour)
PULOVR is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
civic blx
CFz Discussion
47
18-Apr-2008 08:59 AM
imported_Bruce Fee
Chit-Chat
40
19-May-2006 03:18 PM
imported_loudsubz
Chit-Chat
50
03-Dec-2004 11:24 AM
imported_~ILLEST CIV~
Traffic tickets, accidents, insurance
21
23-Jan-2003 06:03 PM



Quick Reply: Charter of Rights....



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:52 PM.