Shock? & Springs?
Whats up gentlemen,
i have a question ive been reading alot of posts in regards to ppl and their suspension. I keep hearing different brands... I have a 95 civic, and im curious to know which in your opinions would be a good setup of a good shock and spring... I want coil overs so i can adjust the ride height.. and i want a good setup that makes me stick to the ground, very little movement when i try and push the shock down.. Two brands that i have been hearing about are Bilstein & Tein... what are your thoughts?? Any help would be greatly appreciated.. |
How aften are you going to be adjusting the ride height? You might be better off getting a nice set of springs. Tein's are realy nice, as are eibach's. I have a '98 coupe with Eibach's and KYB shocks, and I love them.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...09041206550895
http://www.tein.com/products/super_street.html SUPER STREET are what you need in your life! or a basic i have the basic in my car now, have had eibach's and others |
Well i plan on adjusting it twice a year... once in the winter to raise it,,and in the summer to lower it..
like i said im lookin for a stiff ride... sirberner.. you recommend http://www.tein.com/products/super_street.html is it a nice stiff ride?.. i want this to last.. i dont want to lower my car and next thing you know one of my shocks is blown lol...
Originally Posted by seanv98
(Post 85992)
How aften are you going to be adjusting the ride height? You might be better off getting a nice set of springs. Tein's are realy nice, as are eibach's. I have a '98 coupe with Eibach's and KYB shocks, and I love them.
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Go for PIC's
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http://picperformance.com/store/scri...?idproduct=192
this brand??..that only shows the front and no rear??
Originally Posted by k_r_a_c_k_e_r
(Post 86040)
Go for PIC's
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Yup.. thats the brand..
They come on full sets, but there only showing two in the pictures. |
ohh okkk mintt
anyone had any experience with PIC before??? |
or with any of these brands.. or others?
i was shown a set of Skunk2 coilovers http://www.skunk2.com/suspension_tuning2.php?code=COV |
I would stay away from coilovers, it has alot of "bounce" to them, and you run the risk of blowing you're shocks if you go to low! I myself are riding on stock stock shocks with Tein drop springs, love the ride, i actually had a buddy take my car for a spin last night and he only had positive things to say about my suspension!!! And i'm looking at replacing them with a fully adjustable shock/spring system to do what you want to do.
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hmm
guys i think i might order the PIC's teknotik best place to go?? |
teknotik is the best place for PIC's
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Originally Posted by fubar
(Post 108609)
I would stay away from coilovers, it has alot of "bounce" to them, and you run the risk of blowing you're shocks if you go to low! I myself are riding on stock stock shocks with Tein drop springs, love the ride, i actually had a buddy take my car for a spin last night and he only had positive things to say about my suspension!!! And i'm looking at replacing them with a fully adjustable shock/spring system to do what you want to do.
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Is this going to be on a street car? Will it see any track events?
I ask this because "stiff" is a very broad statement. For example I use 1200lb springs regularly on track cars because thats the sort of "stiffness" I need. On street cars however, I find 400-500lb springs are usually more then ample, and coupled with thicker swaybars they make a killer daily driven combo that wont kill your kidney's over every pothole. I would also stress the importance of a good damper. Many people fail to look at the damper quality, or assume that because its adjustable it must be better. Truth is, adjustability is far over rated, and most dampers on the market aren't valved very well, or the internals are quite poor. This is the case with most "full" coilovers on the market. For that reason I find dampers with coilover sleeves provide a fantastic solution. You are able to choose a damper such as a Koni or Bilstein unit, which are used in many high level motorsport cars, and have a long standing history of quality and performance. Couple those dampers with some Ground Controls with properly chosen spring rates, and you have a fantastic combo at a very fair price. Also, please dont overlook other suspension components such as swaybars. They are going to be a great way for you to balance roll resistence and comfort. |
Originally Posted by iTaLiAn_vIrUs
(Post 86052)
ohh okkk mintt
anyone had any experience with PIC before??? I got 10k8K and they aren't too bouncy ... the wife doesnt complain... I was expecting more bounce so I could watch her boobs jiggle! I little upset now but at least I cant pay attention to the road... |
Originally Posted by 2Join Performance
(Post 128415)
Is this going to be on a street car? Will it see any track events?
I ask this because "stiff" is a very broad statement. For example I use 1200lb springs regularly on track cars because thats the sort of "stiffness" I need. On street cars however, I find 400-500lb springs are usually more then ample, and coupled with thicker swaybars they make a killer daily driven combo that wont kill your kidney's over every pothole. I would also stress the importance of a good damper. Many people fail to look at the damper quality, or assume that because its adjustable it must be better. Truth is, adjustability is far over rated, and most dampers on the market aren't valved very well, or the internals are quite poor. This is the case with most "full" coilovers on the market. For that reason I find dampers with coilover sleeves provide a fantastic solution. You are able to choose a damper such as a Koni or Bilstein unit, which are used in many high level motorsport cars, and have a long standing history of quality and performance. Couple those dampers with some Ground Controls with properly chosen spring rates, and you have a fantastic combo at a very fair price. Also, please dont overlook other suspension components such as swaybars. They are going to be a great way for you to balance roll resistence and comfort. actually i was also considering Bilstein http://www.bilstein.com/mistore/ymm_...reYMM=storeYMM the last one at the bottem the PSS kit my buddie had a set on his BMW.. very smooth ride, then again its a bmw i should have mentioned that i already have front and rear strut bars.. which i have noticed an improvement when turning && i do agree with ur comment with regards to the dampers, i guess its a little difficult to find a good product with height adjustability & a good damper
Originally Posted by kingjames1983
(Post 128463)
I have them in my car right now... for around $800 you cant beat the performance out of them. Any problems and the guys at teknotik will help you out... but I have never seen anyone blow one. The worse was sand and salt from the winter made them hard to adjust... in other words lube those bad boys up if you use them in the winter.
I got 10k8K and they aren't too bouncy ... the wife doesnt complain... I was expecting more bounce so I could watch her boobs jiggle! I little upset now but at least I cant pay attention to the road... well im located in sauga... wanna take me for a boot in it so i know what it feels like or anyone for that matter lol |
Originally Posted by iTaLiAn_vIrUs
(Post 128527)
nope no track, just street.. it will be adjusted twice a year.. once for winter and once for summer
actually i was also considering Bilstein http://www.bilstein.com/mistore/ymm_...reYMM=storeYMM the last one at the bottem the PSS kit my buddie had a set on his BMW.. very smooth ride, then again its a bmw i should have mentioned that i already have front and rear strut bars.. which i have noticed an improvement when turning && i do agree with ur comment with regards to the dampers, i guess its a little difficult to find a good product with height adjustability & a good damper :haha: lmao good one well im located in sauga... wanna take me for a boot in it so i know what it feels like or anyone for that matter lol good one? that wasn't a joke... I am serious! She is my fiance and I try to go the bumpy route so I can see them jiggle. Its more fun that way... without it driving is boring |
damn u guys are loving the Tein ehh
well ive narrowed it down to two PIC or Bilstein |
Originally Posted by iTaLiAn_vIrUs
(Post 128527)
nope no track, just street.. it will be adjusted twice a year.. once for winter and once for summer
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heard buddy club and PIC are good those would b my two choices
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