chewy321

hi, i was just wondering if there is anybody that can install springs along with everything eles that should be check for a safe drive(alignment ect..) for cheap?($100-less) i have a 99 civic dx coupe and i want to in eibach sportlines but i cant afford to take it to a shop.

heres a picture if it helps...

btr2beat

nobodys gonna install springs for under $100.. especially if the bushings are seized... with an alignment.....pm me if u want a serious quote..

D.T.P

rent a spring compressor from ctire and diy

chewy321

yeah i thought about doing that its just the alignment part... im not sure how to just it... but im sure theres a way you can mark it on the stock shocks and line it back up with the after market ones right? so you would have an idea were to put them back?

jaebreezie

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^^X2 ...

did it in my driveway too... not hard...the only problem was the seized rear LCA bolts..might have to cut and put in new ones... Alignment, you gotta wait till your springs settle, then get it done ya dig?

chewy321

ok so would i have to buy new LCA bolts for the back? and whats a way that you can get alignment back to best as possible after install?

D.T.P

ive swapped struts/springs 3x and never did allignment. never had any problems.

jaebreezie

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..I've had my springs in for about a month. Still don't need any alignment.

subsonic-civic

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i've been dropped since may. i have slight visible camber in the rear, but don't need an alignment. I check my tire tread depth every 2-3 weeks when i check pressure, no wierd alignment wear whatsoever.

chris_v2

Don't listen to what anybody tells you. When you lower a car you MUST get an alignment after. The car may drive perfectly straight after, that's fine. However they're are many more alignment angles on the vehicle. Your tires will wear pre-maturely if you do not get an alignment.

Spending $600-$800 every 20,000km is not fun.

NorthernEG

def want an align...I just did mine and both rear lower control arm bolts snapped. had to buy ne bolts and bushings from honda so keep in mind it may happen to you, and prolly be a bitch to fix in a driveway

chewy321

ok... so would it be ok to do it myself in my drive way or not?... and with a 2" drop... how dose that go in the snow during winter? anyone with any stories? or is it all good?

Thanks alot everyone this thread really helped! ill keep posting for more questions!

seanv98

I've driven cars lowered in the winter before, with no problems, but if you have a front lip take it off. And listen to chris, you should get an alignment done after you lower the car however they will not be able to adjust camber without a camber kit being installed on the car.

31dev31

Mine is dropped 4" on coilovers since june... very noticable camber in front and rear, but I haven't had any problem, and my tires are always inflated correctly.

subsonic-civic

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just cause you should, doenst mean you have to (or need to).

also, just curious, if they cant adjust the camber w/o a camber kit, then what can they adjust?

I though you could adjust the camber slightly w/o a kit (not counting the washer trick for the rear).

R1020

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toe is what you can adjust, and it is more important for tire wear than negative camber. that said, TOO much negative camber can be detrimental to tires, but if your car is that low... well, you have other problems (like poor handling! what is worse than that?).

getting an alignment is just common sense. $80 < new tires.

peter

D.T.P

but if you swap struts how does toe go out of its place? you arent changing tie rods which will cause different angles of toe. when you put struts in, they end up in exactly the same place so.....imo there is no need. ive driven lowered for over a year and never had premature tire wear. shoot yourself.

R1020

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he's not installing just shocks.

he's installing springs, which will lower the car and change the toe angles.

i don't care about your tires.

peter

D.T.P

true well im just saying, i never did my allignment and never had premature wear. you can find allignment for 70-80$ so better to be safe then sorry, while i dont care about my tires since they are f^ thats why i dont do allignment haha.

btr2beat

you've got the right idea,.. when the car is lowered. the tires will toe out slightly due to the tie rod angles being changed. just like if u raise a car to its max height the tires will toe inwards.. but if your not doing a huge drop.. its shouldn't affect the alignment.. I've lowered over 100 cars and most of them never did an alignment unless they had camber kits..

just my 2 cents from being a mechanic for over 12 years