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gudoffer 31-Mar-2010 12:43 PM

Finally saved up...will lower my ride...need opinion
 
Hi guys, i finally saved up around $600 and decided to lower my car...

I know people posted this kind of topic before what should i get and bla bla...but i actually am gna lower it soon times...so just wanted a more realistic suggestion because well, im gna buy em :)

I want lowering springs for my 01 civic cause well coil-overs is just pure stiff and roads arent that bad in my area but i do bump into a bunch of bumpy roads and construction zones.

I'm getting the Wing West G5 Lip kit on it as well...so I just want to know how low should i go ? The lip kit is more or less of a mini body kit...

Here is a sample picture of the kit...and this is a sample car too...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8...02civicg54.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6302/0102civicg53.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2...02civicg52.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/688/0102civicg5.jpg

Was thinking of 1.5 inch drop all around since i got the G5 lip kit and plus the roads bumpy, some construction, i wouldn't want to damage the lip kit...

So what should i grab, Tein S springs with which shocks? or should i get skunk 2 and go lower....or what can i do within that budget?

also,

The chamber kit, is needed so the wheels thread is same and even... right? which one? front and back ? thanks guys

(also posted this on CF ...HT...TC)

Thanks guys

MPR 31-Mar-2010 01:42 PM

First off, thanks for giving us lots of info to work with, like what you use the car for and what your plans are. Some people just say "what springs should I get" and give no other info...so thanks!:smile:

Since your main goal is to lower your car and maintain ride comfort, I'd be carefull of which springs you get. Try to find out the spring rates of all the springs you're inquiring about, and go with the softest set. Eibach sportlines are soft enough that they do not require you to change the dampers (shocks) which will save you money. I also suggest you get ride-height adjustable collars or spring perches. That will give the ability to raise or lower the car for winter and summer.

Good luck with your car and post pics!

P.S. I'm not one for body kits, but that kit isn't too bad. I like it. I like that nascar type wing too, that's something I've never seen on a civic before. (just don't do the big blue vinyl flames please...lol).

rick10 31-Mar-2010 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by gudoffer (Post 1449789)
Hi guys, i finally saved up around $600 and decided to lower my car...

I know people posted this kind of topic before what should i get and bla bla...but i actually am gna lower it soon times...so just wanted a more realistic suggestion because well, im gna buy em :)

I want lowering springs for my 01 civic cause well coil-overs is just pure stiff and roads arent that bad in my area but i do bump into a bunch of bumpy roads and construction zones.

I'm getting the Wing West G5 Lip kit on it as well...so I just want to know how low should i go ? The lip kit is more or less of a mini body kit...

Here is a sample picture of the kit...and this is a sample car too...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8...02civicg54.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6302/0102civicg53.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2...02civicg52.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/688/0102civicg5.jpg

Was thinking of 1.5 inch drop all around since i got the G5 lip kit and plus the roads bumpy, some construction, i wouldn't want to damage the lip kit...

So what should i grab, Tein S springs with which shocks? or should i get skunk 2 and go lower....or what can i do within that budget?

also,

The chamber kit, is needed so the wheels thread is same and even... right? which one? front and back ? thanks guys

(also posted this on CF ...HT...TC)

Thanks guys


all I can advice you is too make sure you don't lowered too much. You may get hassle by cops ( tickets) and if you do have a front lip make sure you have enough clearance to go over bumps , pull in/out driveway.

From experience i can tell you that after I put my front lip it was a pain in the butt to pull in drive way ( at buildings) and as soon as the first snow storm happened I lost my lip on the road... It sure looks nice and my car isnt even lowered that much so I can only imagine what others go through...

So either lowered your car alot and forget about the lip or do a small drop and put on the lip , that is if you still want to enjoy driving everywhere otherwise you may be limited of pulling in/out someplaces ( like myself)

MPR 31-Mar-2010 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by rick10 (Post 1449797)
all I can advice you is too make sure you don't lowered too much. You may get hassle by cops ( tickets) and if you do have a front lip make sure you have enough clearance to go over bumps , pull in/out driveway.

From experience i can tell you that after I put my front lip it was a pain in the butt to pull in drive way ( at buildings) and as soon as the first snow storm happened I lost my lip on the road... It sure looks nice and my car isnt even lowered that much so I can only imagine what others go through...

So either lowered your car alot and forget about the lip or do a small drop and put on the lip , that is if you still want to enjoy driving everywhere otherwise you may be limited of pulling in/out someplaces ( like myself)

Agreed. That's why I remove my front lip/skirts for the winter months.

Also it sucks with people behind and you're crawling over speed bumps slowing everyone down...lol.

Installing some adjustable ride height sleve's this year so that during the winter I can raise it up to 4x4 mode and slam it in the summer...:D

Climax_R 31-Mar-2010 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by gudoffer (Post 1449789)
Hi guys, i finally saved up around $600 and decided to lower my car...

I know people posted this kind of topic before what should i get and bla bla...but i actually am gna lower it soon times...so just wanted a more realistic suggestion because well, im gna buy em :)

I want lowering springs for my 01 civic cause well coil-overs is just pure stiff and roads arent that bad in my area but i do bump into a bunch of bumpy roads and construction zones.

I'm getting the Wing West G5 Lip kit on it as well...so I just want to know how low should i go ? The lip kit is more or less of a mini body kit...

Here is a sample picture of the kit...and this is a sample car too...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8...02civicg54.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6302/0102civicg53.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2...02civicg52.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/688/0102civicg5.jpg

Was thinking of 1.5 inch drop all around since i got the G5 lip kit and plus the roads bumpy, some construction, i wouldn't want to damage the lip kit...

So what should i grab, Tein S springs with which shocks? or should i get skunk 2 and go lower....or what can i do within that budget?

also,

The chamber kit, is needed so the wheels thread is same and even... right? which one? front and back ? thanks guys

(also posted this on CF ...HT...TC)

Thanks guys


hey man if you're gonna spend the money and throw that kit on, you might as well use those lock screws or whatever they're called..... my friend got his lip stolen at mcmaster uni parking lot off his 1.6 el and ya it sucks! so i suggest looking into these screws that probably wont cost you over a couple bucks in total! but yea good luck with the new parts!

D.T.P 31-Mar-2010 11:08 PM

^^what screws are you talking about?

OP I had an EG coupe with s-tech springs and a mugen front lip, I scrapped everywhere unless I was very careful.
Also depends on the size of a rim you are planning on running. That will also change the height thing.

As Mike stated, since you are looking for a good ride quality, look into spring rates also.
For struts, I would highly recommend koni yellows.

rick10 31-Mar-2010 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by Climax_R (Post 1449816)
hey man if you're gonna spend the money and throw that kit on, you might as well use those lock screws or whatever they're called..... my friend got his lip stolen at mcmaster uni parking lot off his 1.6 el and ya it sucks! so i suggest looking into these screws that probably wont cost you over a couple bucks in total! but yea good luck with the new parts!


I put on my lip with rivets so there were going nowhere , unless i hit snow :D

D.T.P 01-Apr-2010 07:37 AM

^^rivets are worse, because you will actually brake the slip into many pieces rather than just popping the bolts out. Also, winter time i would strongly suggest to remove lips/skirts, with rivets it will not be fun removing it.

MPR 01-Apr-2010 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by scrid3r (Post 1449883)
^^what screws are you talking about?

OP I had an EG coupe with s-tech springs and a mugen front lip, I scrapped everywhere unless I was very careful.
Also depends on the size of a rim you are planning on running. That will also change the height thing.

As Mike stated, since you are looking for a good ride quality, look into spring rates also.
For struts, I would highly recommend koni yellows.

Unless they're running giant 20" rims, they should be using the correct tire size as to closely match the diameter of the stock tire size...otherwise their speedometer will be off and acceleration will suffer. lol

If the OP is lucky to find springs soft enough, they shouldn't need to change the struts/dampers. But yes, Koni yellows would be ideal for a softer spring combo.

rick10 01-Apr-2010 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by scrid3r (Post 1449905)
^^rivets are worse, because you will actually brake the slip into many pieces rather than just popping the bolts out. Also, winter time i would strongly suggest to remove lips/skirts, with rivets it will not be fun removing it.


incorrect. When the lip came out it didnt break into many pieces. The lip came out completely like it would of with screws. The only part that stayed attached to the car was 2 little pieces the size of a finger nail that were attached to the rivet. I m putting mine with rivets this year again . Had no problems whats so ever and I did scrape my lip a lot , plus noone will steal it :D

MPR 01-Apr-2010 10:14 AM

Rivots for fastening lips and skirts on eh? hmmm

Never thought of that. Not a bad idea. :smile:

I find the screws keep coming loose and stripping so each year I have to use bigger and bigger screws... Might give this a try next time.

gudoffer 06-Apr-2010 12:17 AM

how low should i go ....g5 lip kit and im thinking 17 inch rims...

gudoffer 06-Apr-2010 12:24 AM

we'll i want a ride that is not too stiff...so i heard and somewhat experienced that lowering springs and shocks i can manage for 600 - 700 bucks and they will not be as stiff and will give me the drop i want and add to my handling...

coil-overs so far, i've heard the positive that i can drop the car and change height...other than that, cant say much....

thats why i need help... tokico blues i heard of from a few people and also yellows....whats better?

and im thinking of throwing the car on 17inch rims...
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MPR 06-Apr-2010 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by gudoffer (Post 1450507)
we'll i want a ride that is not too stiff...so i heard and somewhat experienced that lowering springs and shocks i can manage for 600 - 700 bucks and they will not be as stiff and will give me the drop i want and add to my handling...

coil-overs so far, i've heard the positive that i can drop the car and change height...other than that, cant say much....

thats why i need help... tokico blues i heard of from a few people and also yellows....whats better?

and im thinking of throwing the car on 17inch rims...
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As I mentioned before...

For your application, I'd just get a set of springs alone (no "coil-over" kit etc...) like eibach sport lines or similar, and also get a set of ride-height adjustable collars which sit on the stock spring perches. With that setup it will cost you a lot less then buying a full kit with struts and everything, which you don't really need, and give you the drop you want with ride height adjustability. In keeping with softer springs, you will not need to change the dampers.

That is my experienced opinion and the best suggestion I can give you for your application. I've been running on eibach sportline springs with factory dampers for 150,000kms, they are totally fine and the ride is quite quality is very good for how low the car sits (2-2.5" drop).

You are going to get (as you have already) a bunch of different opinions from everyone. Don't expect us to tell you exactly what to go with because nobody will agree on one specific setup. The end decision is your own, my friend.

Good luck and let us know what you end up going with.

Darrylmcl 06-Apr-2010 11:11 AM

Ive got a 00 civic with a lip... lowered it just this weekend.
KYB shocks and struts with Eibach Pro Kit Springs.
1.5 drop in the front
1.3 drop in the back

My buddy and I did it in his mildly sloped driveway... coming out for the first time after install.. I scraped my lip... also went to crappy tire on Leslie and Sheppard... scraped again coming.

So in 4 days I've scraped twice already... to give you an example of your future.

MPR 06-Apr-2010 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Darrylmcl (Post 1450548)
Ive got a 00 civic with a lip... lowered it just this weekend.
KYB shocks and struts with Eibach Pro Kit Springs.
1.5 drop in the front
1.3 drop in the back

My buddy and I did it in his mildly sloped driveway... coming out for the first time after install.. I scraped my lip... also went to crappy tire on Leslie and Sheppard... scraped again coming.

So in 4 days I've scraped twice already... to give you an example of your future.

Ahh yes, the joys of a lowered car...:p

subsonic-civic 06-Apr-2010 12:48 PM

Hey MPR, can you send me a link to those sleeves?
Also, can you adjust them while on the car? or would you have to pull them off everytime??

MPR 06-Apr-2010 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by subsonic-civic (Post 1450568)
Hey MPR, can you send me a link to those sleeves?
Also, can you adjust them while on the car? or would you have to pull them off everytime??

See pic:
http://www.stance-usa.com/sus/images...ck-lowered.png

It's a threaded collar where the bottom of the spring sit on a locking ring. When you turn the ring it threads up or down the collar, changing the ride height.

On some cars, you can adjust them while the car is jacked up with the wheel still on the car. Other setups, you must remove the wheel to gain sufficient access to the collar to make the adjustment.

subsonic-civic 06-Apr-2010 01:13 PM

yeah they're like the gc sleeves. but i wasnt sure if they'd fit onto all springs or not, or if they could be adjusted while assembled. cause i dont have the equipment or time to swap em out twice a year! haha

MPR 06-Apr-2010 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by subsonic-civic (Post 1450575)
yeah they're like the gc sleeves. but i wasnt sure if they'd fit onto all springs or not, or if they could be adjusted while assembled. cause i dont have the equipment or time to swap em out twice a year! haha

They are easily adjusted while on the car. When you switch to your winter tires, just crank them up while the wheels are off. Simple as that.


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