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Old 09-Feb-2011, 12:55 PM
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Hello everyone I chose this name because that is what I have named the new car. I am new to the site and fairly new to the whole scene.
So here's the deal... I bought said car "frankenstien" with out really having a good look at it. Body was in good shape and the car ran well but never drove it as it was not plated.
As I looked at this thing more and more, I find it has a motor swap done. So I get into looking more and more since it failed the emissions horribly. Now this is where I thought of frankenstien when we pulled back the carpet to find the brain and wires all over the place. I didn't know what to do, so I came here to get some input and advice.
Who ever did the swap should not be doing them. The harness was cut and the guy tried wiring it up to the plugs for the ecu. Needless to say I don't believe the O2 sensor is communicating with the ecu because of the insanely rich readings from the e test, I mean it's to the point where the exhaust is not hot enough to make the cat work.
So I took the car over to A.R.T. in thornhill and he said the v tech isn't even hooked up, and I have a few options, leave the car with him and or try to find a wire harness for the car. Then use the adapter, but the engine to ecu harness is hard to find.

So I guess my only option is to have him go through the wiring and wire it up properly, he also assured me that when the car leaves the shop it will be running properly.
Oh the joys of buying used cars.....
All I wanted to do was get a newer car to replace my 92 accord with almost 500 000km and now I know why I waited so long to do it because the new car remindes me of what a pain buying used can be.
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Old 09-Feb-2011, 04:15 PM
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Welcome to the site.

No offense, but next time you should do your research so you know what to look for and what your getting...lol

What engine is in it?
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Old 09-Feb-2011, 11:17 PM
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Old 10-Feb-2011, 09:56 AM
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Ya I should have definatly looked it over a little better, price was right tho only a g.

It has a b18c.
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Old 10-Feb-2011, 11:45 AM
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^That is a good motor, my friend.

My suggestion to you would be to contact HiVelocity tuning. They specialise in swaps and tuning. I'm sure they'd be able to help you sort out any issues as well as help you get a proper tune for that engine.

Good luck.
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Old 10-Feb-2011, 12:34 PM
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WORD^^ if your gonna have someone do the work for you, these guys know this stuff.
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things to know, Engine and computer model.
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Old 10-Feb-2011, 05:41 PM
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just because the vtec isn't hooked up doesn't mean, youre going to fail or pass emissions.....

I'm +1 with MPR. Contact HiVelocity
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Old 11-Feb-2011, 10:22 AM
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I know purple stuff, that is just what the guy noticed first was the v tech wires not connected.
MY suspision is the O2 sensor stuck in an open loop and dumping fuel. Hc limit was 200ppm and Im getting almost 1000 ppm. All the numbers are way out.The exhaust is not getting hot enough to even acctivate the catalytic converter.

I worked and etest cars for a number of years and majority of hondas do pass emission, and with the numbers being so far out I knew something wasn't right.

What I can't believe is that the previous owner had no knowledge of this stuff and drove the car as it was for maybe 3 yrs.
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As for the last part, that the previous owner didn't know anything about this, is a complete lie on his behalf, imo. If your car is running extrememly rich and you're wasting gas basically, you would be concerned, no matter how rich you are. At the end of the day its a civic, if you have "so much money", you wouldn't be driving one. Good luck on fixing, see if you can trace to see where the o2 wire(s) are going. I would personally, get myself familiarized with my car, THEN take it to a mechanic, many mechanics, even the most renowned ones, read people instantly, and can charge you for things that your car doesn't even have.

Good luck with the problems! a
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I am a mechanic, I just don't do it as a career anymore. I could probably sort it out myself, I just don't have the time to do so. Also living in an apt.... I don't have the facilties to do this work.

When I asked the guy what engine was in it he said dohc, he didn't know what size it was or what year. I found all the reciepts for the car in the trunk and he bought the car from a used car dealer with the swap done. My guess is he had no clue or why else would you drive the car as it was for 3-4 yrs. All he knew was it would not pass emissions, Any how I sent an email to hivelocity, and am waiting for a reply and quote.
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lets see some pictures of the car
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If you plan to keep the car I's start by looking at the motor, near the rad just under the head where the motor and trans meet is a flat spot, might be dirty but the engine code is stamped there. If it's a DOHC, then it'll probably be a B16/18/20 or H22. The numbers represent the displacement. B16=1.6L H22=2.2L etc. then there will be a few other numbers, write them all sown eg B16a1 or whatever is there and then wiki that number to find out what cars came with that motor so you can get a good idea of what you have. After that I would look for a new harness, make sure you have the correct ECU for the motor, or get a chipped P28 (see High Velocity) if you don't and a conversion harness if necessary. You likely will need it as if everything was plug and play in your case then there wouldn't be a bunch of hacked up wires.

BTW it's VTEC, not V tech (your car doesn't have a portable home phone in it) since the tech said you VTEC isn't hooked up the motor won't be a B20 unless it's got a B16/18 head on it and not all B18's are VTEC either. Again wiki Honda motors and they have a fairly accurate and extensive list of the various motors Honda has made over the years.

Good luck with getting the car running properly. PICS!
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^+1. Find out and confirm which engine you actually have and that will give you an idea of where to go from there for sorting out the ecu etc.

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Originally Posted by frankenstien View Post
I am new to the site and fairly new to the whole scene.
So I took the car over to A.R.T. in thornhill and he said the v tech isn't even hooked up
Originally Posted by frankenstien View Post
I know purple stuff, that is just what the guy noticed first was the v tech wires not connected.
Originally Posted by frankenstien View Post
I am a mechanic, I just don't do it as a career anymore.
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BTW it's VTEC, not V tech (your car doesn't have a portable home phone in it)
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