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Old 20-Jul-2010, 10:28 AM
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Thumbs up Project Si-Rally Pics. The New 'Stance'

Here are the pics of my 2000 SiR during the past 2 weeks undergoing it's rally-car transformation:

First up, the new fogs:

The old, busted oem fogs
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The new fogs and naca-ducts. Fogs are 100watt spot-lights and were on sale for $15 at Princess auto!
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Modding the bumper to make the ducts fit
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The finished front bumper with new fogs:
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Now comes the suspension work:

The ITR springs and dampers I ended up not using.
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Pre-loaded eibach sportline spring with height collar at max height. This is one of the rear struts shown
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And the front, set a bit lower then the rear for an even level stance
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And here is the new ride height and stance:
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Enjoy!

Would like to hear your thoughts/opinions. Good or bad!

Thanks for looking.
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Old 20-Jul-2010, 11:38 AM
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I kinda like the direction you are going with this...

The ducts at the front could have been a little more flush and some ducting fab'd up venting towards the brakes to keep them cool...

the are i live in has alot of ignorance in regards to ppls cars and the fog lights would be torn off by some vagrant... so those are a no go for me... the suspension with the reaised stance looks way better than i thought it would...

keep at it... 2 thumbs up over here
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Old 20-Jul-2010, 11:44 AM
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^Thanks. Yeah, I'm waiting till the time I park my car and come out to find the fog's broken off or moved out of position..... Meh, they were $15. lol As long as the bumper isn't damaged, I'll just get another set.

Forgot to mention, the naca ducts WILL be functional. I normally don't do anything like this unless it has a function. They are not hooked up yet though. The one on the passenger side will be routed to a custom air box for the short-ram intake that I'll be making next. The other side, I'm not sure yet.

And btw, those collars were originally made for a miata...lol.

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Old 20-Jul-2010, 11:52 AM
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ahhh so cool, i wanted to convert my civic into a rally car. Bodykit i dont think would fair off well. Car looks pretty sick, nice wheel/fender gap
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Old 20-Jul-2010, 12:06 PM
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Nice work, Mike. A lot of good thought put into this, I just read your thread in the Suspension sub-section, and understand the whys of the whole project.
Looks good, and seems to be going in the functional direction that you've got planned.
Another bit of aWesome work from you. Good pics.
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^Thanks. Yeah, I'm waiting till the time I park my car and come out to find the fog's broken off or moved out of position..... Meh, they were $15. lol As long as the bumper isn't damaged, I'll just get another set.

Forgot to mention, the naca ducts WILL be functional. I normally don't do anything like this unless it has a function. They are not hooked up yet though. The one on the passenger side will be routed to a custom air box for the short-ram intake that I'll be making next. The other side, I'm not sure yet.

And btw, those collars were originally made for a miata...lol.

to avoid wasting $15 you could mount then behind the grill..
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Originally Posted by purposebuilt View Post
to avoid wasting $15 you could mount then behind the grill..
I thought about that and it would look pretty damn cool in there, but the grill would restrict the full effect of the beam. Right now they actually shine farther then the high beems (which are also 100 watts). Muuuahaha!
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Looks good mike cant wait to actually see it
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eah now you can go over those speed bumps with out holding traffic. lol im liking it a lot.
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but holding up traffic is so much fun in a civic! try being me, if I go into the mainland, getting my civic on/off the ferry and then again on the way home. BC ferries are always busy and not exactly lowered car friendly.

Car looks good but I think you shoulda found a old bumper from a scrap yard and tried a few variations on the scoops. not bad but I think you could have done it cleaner. Based on what I would have done different and the work I've seen of yours aside from this. maybe pulling them out to the side, covering the little "vent" looking part, may have not worked on your bumper since it's already cut from your fogs and sorta tuck the top of the scoop up into the bumper but leaving the bottom of it overlapping it would look better IMO, no hate, just constructive criticism.
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Old 21-Jul-2010, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ol Dusty View Post
but holding up traffic is so much fun in a civic! try being me, if I go into the mainland, getting my civic on/off the ferry and then again on the way home. BC ferries are always busy and not exactly lowered car friendly.

Car looks good but I think you shoulda found a old bumper from a scrap yard and tried a few variations on the scoops. not bad but I think you could have done it cleaner. Based on what I would have done different and the work I've seen of yours aside from this. maybe pulling them out to the side, covering the little "vent" looking part, may have not worked on your bumper since it's already cut from your fogs and sorta tuck the top of the scoop up into the bumper but leaving the bottom of it overlapping it would look better IMO, no hate, just constructive criticism.
Yeah I know exactly what your saying about the scoops. I had originally planned to have them be set more to the sides to cover the entire oem fog light indentation. Once I got the scoops home I realised they weren't long enough to do that with, so I ended up doing this. It's not 100% the way I wanted it, but close enough for me. I'm not a big cosmetic guy, so as long as it functions the way I intended, it's all good.

But thanks for your input, none-the-less.
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Whatever floats your boat. Again, I like what you're doing here, just saying. Looking forward to seeing it with the ITR mud flaps!
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Excellent work so far. I'd imagine those progressive rate ITR springs would be a bitch to try to work with... all floppy at the top and no good rally-stiffness until you're half-way to bottoming out (aka, too late, you're gonna bottom out) :P

How is the spring rate with the Eibach's preloaded that much? I'd imagine it's pretty tight.

Needs some little 13" OZ rims with some huge sidewall tires to add to the rally look I'd rock that in the winter with some chunky ice+snow tires.
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Excellent work so far. I'd imagine those progressive rate ITR springs would be a bitch to try to work with... all floppy at the top and no good rally-stiffness until you're half-way to bottoming out (aka, too late, you're gonna bottom out) :P

How is the spring rate with the Eibach's preloaded that much? I'd imagine it's pretty tight.

Needs some little 13" OZ rims with some huge sidewall tires to add to the rally look I'd rock that in the winter with some chunky ice+snow tires.
Haha, yeah I've got some 14" pizza-cutter snows for winter. Will probably paint the 14" steelies white.

Well if my math is right, (based on quick calculations with rough estimates) the springs were 310in-lb front and 275 rear. On the stock ride height, they were barely compressed so barely pre-loaded.

Now with the fronts pre-loaded by 3.5" and rears by 4" the springs are acting like 1085 in-lb fronts and 1100in-lb rears (estimated). Much closer to an ideal 'race' setup. It feels weird sitting up that high and not having nearly as much body roll as you'd expect.
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I don't think he'll find 13's that'll clear the front brakes on this car. Not even VX rims and they're the only 13's that of know of that'll clear the front brakes on EG Si's. This EM1 is gonna be bigger brakes then any EG, I was sold my VX's because they wouldn't fit over the fronts on a guys 98 Si.
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^Yep. The 14" steelies barely clear my front calipers.
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Pick up a set of Diamond Racing Steelies for the track!
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lol i was thinking to sand down that area a few mm and put drywall tape over the stock ducts, fill that up with bondo or fiberglass so it's flush, sand and repaint so it looks smooth... or if you can layer fiberglass over the stock ducts and on the innerside so it's strong and then sand/repaint, but i'm new to bodywork... ideas to consider maybe? car looks good so far tho man! agree with the other guys, needs more sidewall as well for a more aggressive look... thoughts?
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Pick up a set of Diamond Racing Steelies for the track!
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