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Old 08-Jan-2011, 11:59 PM
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08.12.2010

Everything started when I brought home the civic. At first everything was alright, I was going to get it safetied and ready to run on the road. However there was a couple rust holes that I needed to patch up to pass. Also the e-brake needed to be tightened. Came with a d16a6 with about 280,000km. My first car.









09.12.2010

I didn't have any plans at this time, just do some minor patch work so I can get everything in good enough condition to pass. It was after all just a beater for a while. Even though it was around -2 degrees outside I still wanted to give her a wash and clean the interior a bit. Maybe wasn't the smartest idea when the windshield froze over right away.









10.12.2010

After everything was clean I wanted to drive around so i'd try to fix everything possible with as little money as possible. I took off the center console to try tightening the e-brake. Didn't work. While cleaning up I removed the passenger seat and rear seat as my little way of reducing weight.









11.12.2010

At this moment I realized that I would need to replace the e-brake cable so this would turn out to be a bigger job then I expected. At this time I looked at the windows and hated the tint. So I took it off. Everything worked out perfectly too, no left over marks. While looking at the engine bay I noticed that the previous owner attached an oversized intake pipe onto the throttle body... I also put the seat back.







17.12.2010

Starting to drive around a lot more often now, sometimes the roads were nice so I could rip to redline in every gear just to see how fast it could reach. One day it started to snow and while on a run I made a turn and slid a little. At this point I took it carefully home and parked it. Snow + Dead summer tires = Not good idea ;P. This is also the day I decided to strip the entire interior just to get to the e-brake and see if there are any other holes in the floor. I also removed the rear windows. I learned that clips are easy to break as well. More rust uncovered.. yay.



















18.12.2010

Reading the manual, I still had no idea how to remove the fender or the front bumper. After being calm for a good 20 minutes with no success, screw it. I ripped it off aha. Removed the door as well just for the hell of it.





19.12.2010

For some reason I thought it would be alright to remove the glass from the rear hatch. Everything was going well until I reached a clip. While trying to force it out, I shattered a little piece. Might as well just punch the rest at this point. Hatch was also removed.







wanting to shave down the antenna I needed to remove the roof, which uncovered the power moonroof. Weighing at around 70lbs it was really hard to remove by myself being so big. At this point, I learned something very important. Detach all cables otherwise you'd have to balance the piece on your head for 5 minutes struggling to unhook.







Removed the passenger door, also decided to buy myself an early present. 2 jackstands.





How she looks at the end of the day



20.12.2010

Removed more things and started to moved them into the basement for more space.











22.12.2010

First try at fiberglass. Patched up the antenna hole and a little rust hole that formed underneath the rear windows. Sanding down the paint and rust was a long horrible experience.





How she looked after the day


23.12.2010

Another small gift for me to make life easier.

25.12.2010

With my little angle grinder I could finally remove the rusty/stripped bolts that held the bumper in place.



27.12.2010

Paint stripping at its best. In really cold weather.







28.12.2010

Just took pictures in my basement since its too cold to be outside











29.12.2010

More sanding down and while trying to remove the carpet I found the ecu (pm6)











30.12.2010

Working on this car is starting to turn to an addiction. Even in the -10 cold weather I still come out and work for 5 hours at a time or until my toes, fingers are too numb to work properly. Not much time today to do anything so I just removed the speedometer





02.01.2011

Sobered up at this time to remove more of the interior. After a few days I finally got the rusted bolts off the seat.



A friend came over to help me remove the windshield. After a giant crack on the inside, I broke it.



YouTube - Windshield Smash



More pieces removed from the body









By the end of the day



03.01.2010

Took out the spark plug cables. At this point of the teardown, I wanted to remove the whole engine. The real fun starts now.

05.01.2010

The REAL teardown begins. Couldn't find an oil pan so I tried to remove the coolant with a water bottle. Didn't work out too well.























Interior, without the steering wheel



At the end of the day


06.01.2010

Finally found it, removed the engine oil

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Old 09-Jan-2011, 12:00 AM
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07.01.2010

Around three in the morning, phone with the gf and making future plans







Once morning came (2pm or something) I started removed all the hoses and plugs I could find (labeling them all ofc)































Now for the plugs/cables



















Aftermarket horn? .... This sounds so high pitched



After the day is done



08.01.2010

Screw extractor took out that stripped screw that was holding the fuse box.





Windshield motor and exhaust manifold removed





and yes. More hoses





Every single day I head out, I learn more and more about how engine truly function. Every part I take out, I research to see exactly what it does and write down were it connects too.
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You know you dont have to disconnect every vacuum hose and every plug off the engine to remove the engine right? few plugs at the towers, o2 sensor and few here and there and the harness would come out with the engine. Unless you arent removing the engine, then i don't see a point of this.

Moreover, If you managed to cut the windshield out, why did you have to smash it in the end? just PITA to clean up.

What are the future plans?
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Dammit didn't realize I can't edit posts on this site..

I know I don't have to remove every single hose but this engine is pretty much just to learn how everything is hooked up and running, so with everything i disconnect i get more experience for the swap after
The windshield about 3 giant cracks on the inside that spidered out. We tried to remove it for about an hour going as careful as possible, but mistakes happen. The bottom was drowned in silicon so it would have taken another hour just for that.

Main plans are to remove all the rust - weld on new sheet metal
swap in a d15b vtec / zc
relocate battery in the rear
rear disk breaks

I have a lot of custom things i wanted to do but only if the engine is running so its not a waste of money/time.
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09.11.2010

With only 3 hours of sleep in 2 days, surprisingly working on the car kept me wide awake
I was sick of working on the engine so i decided to go to the body/interior

took me around two and a half hours just to remove the SDI. Using a hammer and flat head some pieces came out nicely while the others you had to really dig under.



Went inside to warm up a bit, since working in -10 weather isn't really that great. After 5 minutes i returned to take out the dash.



I really like the supra dash where the console is facing the driver. I read a thread a while back about fiberglassing the dash, so i'll try that to see how it works out.





slowly being completely empty

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Originally Posted by D.T.P View Post
If you managed to cut the windshield out, why did you have to smash it in the end?

My guess is this guys new to spinning wrenches. SO far this thread tells me that the OP has no patients and no foresight. The front bumper and that other piece that's sorta a header panel on tis chassis looked good at least in the pics, now he needs to replace at least that panel, same with the rear hatch. Toss in the comments about driving the snot out of it to see what it'll do and fiberglassing the dash etc...

I'll be very surprised if this build becomes anything other then another civic giving the rest of us a bad image.
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^^Agreed
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I give the guy credit for doing all this work himself, but to what point? I see a busted-up 20+ year old car thats now in many pieces with what looks like more to come lol. To make that car decent, its going to take a little more then fiberglass and good intentions.
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Originally Posted by ol Dusty View Post
My guess is this guys new to spinning wrenches. SO far this thread tells me that the OP has no patients and no foresight. The front bumper and that other piece that's sorta a header panel on tis chassis looked good at least in the pics, now he needs to replace at least that panel, same with the rear hatch. Toss in the comments about driving the snot out of it to see what it'll do and fiberglassing the dash etc...

I'll be very surprised if this build becomes anything other then another civic giving the rest of us a bad image.

I am pretty new to this im not going to lie but what you can't see in pictures tells a differant story. Both of the fenders had giant rust spots under the side moulding that were painted over. Needed to be replaced anyways.

It's pretty annoying when you want to get started and every bolt/screw that holds is stripped. I did break a few things because i wasn't patient, some by accident but thats life. I learned.

If i don't fiberglass the dash what else can i do to cover that ugly hole? It's a much cheaper alternative to buying a completely new dash.

A lot of what im saying is just an idea. Nothing is for sure. I know im going to keep the entire body stock though. Your whole post was just to bash me, which is pretty useless.
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Old Honda's are incredibly difficult to make new again as Honda dealer networks worldwide do no carry interior and some exterior parts any longer.
Mechanical parts are drying up as well..

Good luck to you.
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mad respect for taking on a project like this
i would love give you a hand with a build like this if your intrested
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Might I just say, hat's off to this guy!!!

Unlike most people, this guy is not afraid to roll up his sleeves and dig in. He's eager to learn and do all the work himself. Also, like me, he see's the potential in a car that most people would throw away. For that I give him lots of respect.

I'm sick of people saying old cars aren't worth the time and effort. I would much rather buy an old car and keep it running and spend a fraction of the cost of buying a new car, which you can't even touch or look at without setting off a check engine light..lol. Plus the older car will get just as good as or better fuel mileage. No joke!

What better way to learn how to work on cars than buying an older car in need of some TLC and fixing it up yourself?

To the OP: Don't listen to these guys. If this is what you want to do, then set your mind to it and prove them wrong! Don't get discouraged. Keep working on it and keep posting updates.

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awesome work! looks like alooongg process!
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11.01.2010

Woke up this morning wanting to get get everything ready to remove the engine, but to my luck literally every exhaust holding nut was stripped. Soaked it in wd40 for the night, i'll try again tomorrow.

Anyways started to clean up the engine bay a little so i can keep track what i need to remove still. + i took out the front tow hooks



needing a new hatch =( saving the wiring so it doesn't get damaged



I started to look at the rear again to try to find reasons why nothing was coming off. Finally discovered how and removed the cover. Reinforcement nuts were once again rusted so I soaked it in wd40. *incase anybody is wondering, yes im using the correct size socket, yes i tried vice-grips*



Playing around with the suspension





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^Be careful you don't pull on the axle to hard. You don't want to pull one of the CV-joints appart.

What you should do is bolt the upper control arm back in place (for support), remove the center axle nut and then if you want, you can remove the whole suspension knuckle and then you can remove the axles.

Man, seeing you pulling this car appart makes me want to get a project car...lol.
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^ Me too.

Congrats to you coming abroad and doing this from scratch.
It's awesome having so much garage and basement space to use.

To the bashers, if he wanted to turn into a ricer, he wouldn't be doing all this work....He would either A)go to toofast or b)get all the stuff from CT or walmart. Just saying....

The amount of work that you are putting into it, looks to be very nice in the future. If you keep this up, you'll be on the road in no time! .


Ignore the bashers and Keep up the good work!
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Originally Posted by shiroikicker View Post
I am pretty new to this im not going to lie but what you can't see in pictures tells a differant story. Both of the fenders had giant rust spots under the side moulding that were painted over. Needed to be replaced anyways.

It's pretty annoying when you want to get started and every bolt/screw that holds is stripped. I did break a few things because i wasn't patient, some by accident but thats life. I learned.

If i don't fiberglass the dash what else can i do to cover that ugly hole? It's a much cheaper alternative to buying a completely new dash.

A lot of what im saying is just an idea. Nothing is for sure. I know im going to keep the entire body stock though. Your whole post was just to bash me, which is pretty useless.
Taking the valve cover off to pull a mototr is useless. Put some time in reading up on what your doing and save time not destroying things. It is okay to learn BEFORE you do something. The most important thing when taking on a project like this is patients, that you don't have. Look around for a part out and find a dash for you car. you never said anything about the hole in it, you just talk ricer crap about fiberglassing it to look like a supra.

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Old Honda's are incredibly difficult to make new again as Honda dealer networks worldwide do no carry interior and some exterior parts any longer.
Mechanical parts are drying up as well..

Good luck to you.
MPR, this isn't somthing to be ignored, this is good constructive critisizm.

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Might I just say, hat's off to this guy!!!

Unlike most people, this guy is not afraid to roll up his sleeves and dig in. He's eager to learn and do all the work himself. Also, like me, he see's the potential in a car that most people would throw away. For that I give him lots of respect.

I'm sick of people saying old cars aren't worth the time and effort. I would much rather buy an old car and keep it running and spend a fraction of the cost of buying a new car, which you can't even touch or look at without setting off a check engine light..lol. Plus the older car will get just as good as or better fuel mileage. No joke!

What better way to learn how to work on cars than buying an older car in need of some TLC and fixing it up yourself?

To the OP: Don't listen to these guys. If this is what you want to do, then set your mind to it and prove them wrong! Don't get discouraged. Keep working on it and keep posting updates.

I'm also taking on an old car project, older then this by a few years. Not only is it an 87, but that of course make it a pre 88 honda, and carbed, not EFI at that. You ever try to find front fenders for a 1G crx? I'm not try to hate on the OP as much as this thread so far seems to be a waste of bandwidth, who needs a pic of his ECU twice? It's a stock ECU, BIG deal!

OP he's right don't get disgouraged, but honestly look around, you basically yelling out to those that'll listen, I do stupid things and then expecting what? Praise? You mentioned driving it to red in everyu gear toi see what it'll do, but right before that you said the car won't pass saftey as is, comments liek that are what make you look bad and make guys like me not like what your doing.
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OP he's right don't get disgouraged, but honestly look around, you basically yelling out to those that'll listen, I do stupid things and then expecting what? Praise? You mentioned driving it to red in everyu gear toi see what it'll do, but right before that you said the car won't pass saftey as is, comments liek that are what make you look bad and make guys like me not like what your doing.
If working in -10 weather for countless hours and coming home numb hasn't discouraged me yet then i couldn't care the slightest that some people think its stupid what im doing. It's pointless to say i shouldn't have broken a few pieces or abused my car. What's done is done and you're not going to be paying for anything. At high rpm i found out that im burning oil and honestly I didn't even drive for more then 3 minutes. Its way too loud to stick around. To everyone helping out or giving advice i thank you. One of the reasons i started this thread is because I wanted an experienced builders point of view rather then hopes and determination. If you want to bash then go ahead, im telling you now its useless. Cheers.
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*edit*

I had typed a long-winded reply, but all I really have to say is; haters gonna hate...lol. :P

This is the internet and everyone has an opinion.

OP: I'm enjoying seeing these pics and I'm sure others are as well. So keep them coming!

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Well not too much work done today as I was getting some tools

A new member to the fam. Got it really cheap otherwise I would have bought a mig.



Got the last 32mm socket from crappy tire, sort of lucky on my part
Thanks to MPR for the advice on bolting back the upper control arm, went a lot faster then i expected



getting my friend to do some wrench time so he has some experience as he is getting an eg really soon



On the upside i found an entire gsr rear brake conversion for about 150$. I'm really holding up on buying any parts until i get the body patched up.
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