Aryan

These cars suck on high speed cornering, their awd back fires, when there is a slight lift in one part of a chasis, see for your self. These are off road rally cars not track circuit cars, the awd is for gravel, and these cars are suppose to drift out of coners not GRIP, because this is what happens when an impreza awd hits the dry road, it pulls the car in one direction, if it was gravel the tire would hit the gravel and slightly have tire spin, and allow the driver to gain back control, but on dry grip on street, the tire grips and you loos control fast on a corner.

Notice all of them crash the same way, stupid @#$% watch too much fast and the furious, its a fuking rally car not street car.lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phf_s...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-a-A...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5r_...eature=related




here again, rallying on street roads and not gravel, notice when the car lands it pulls hard one way, thats AWD, again if it was gravel, the AWD would have just spun in the gravel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlEj-...eature=related





check this one out, car in front is an impreza and it almost gets it, and the camera car is also impreza and it crashes the same way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYMBS...eature=related

either drag them in a straight line or don't buy them at all.

Cynikal.Mindset

you once again prove to be an idiot...cuz the back end steps out in fast corners like many cars do its reason not to buy one...yea, good call...I've seen every possible make of vehicle crash in this way...wet, dry, gravel whatever...driver just has to know how to correct the car and every car is different...not to mention your gravel only theory kinda goes to sh*t on that wet track video...similar dynamics should exist to gravel in consideration to wheel spin...

would you like me to go out and find videos of other cars crashing in the same way?

have you not seen how violent the rear end of a high powered rwd car gets after breaking traction in a corner and not properly corrected? same damn thing, pulls hard one way and whips you back the other

in any case I have found them to be very street able vehicles in all road and weather conditions

Spiderman

I had an 06 Sti for a week.
And never had a problem with it on a high speed corner...

(although....I mean....I never took corners at high speeds)

Aryan

here you are again, with your dumb *** responses, just because the last video shows the rear loosing grip, you ASSUME you know what you are talking about, buddy get a impreza first then talk **** like you always do, the way the 2.5 wrx/sti awd lsd in the front is configured such a way that when it lifts off ground either a millimeter or more, when it touches back on the ground it pulls the car in that direction, the power transfer goes to the wheel that lifts off, this caused them serious accidents on dirt too, but nothing as bad to whats on the street. its a wet track not gravel, do you even know what gravel is buddy.lol on gravel your car travels two ways straight and and at and angle on rounded pebbles and stones, wet road is just wet.

please go back to your cave and hibernate till you find a job.


spiderman, yes you could have not noticed this because one the road on cornering has to be a bit uneven, and you would have to be going a little fast too, but this is very common in the wrx and sti's.

Dexst

so wait your saying if you grip ou loose control....rightttt...its just over steer and the driver couldnt recover

robbie_R

There's also no T in Impreza. These cars are 60/40 split so 60% more power to the rears hence why they act like a RWD. But I would still rather drive my WRX in the winter than my Civic anyday. Don't forget there are such things as Tarmac rallies as well in which every car in WRC is AWD.

usdm

Hey Aryan i know what you are talking about. However, i think i understand why everyone is hating on you. You seem to be very abusive with your replies, i have nothing against you bud, but i reckon if you were more polite in your responses and responded with better evidence, then people may take you seriously.

I sent you PM's regarding the other topic that was on fire but you never responded, you do seem to have good ideas and forward thinking, but it all goes down the toilet when you respond like you want to kill everyone, just a though.

And to help you out this one time, i think this is what you are trying to tell everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fevj7f1lwhc

The Evo is a better track car, as it has much better electronic adjustments of its AWD system available to the driver by choosing different power transfer to wheel by selecting the appropriate surface, but the impreza does not have that so it over steers all the time, and i think you were trying to explain how the impreza was doing this to its limited AWD system.

I did own an Evo 8, but just like the video states there is just something about STI's, later i traded my Evo for an STI before i had my Porsche, so i agree with you only to what you are trying to say, not the way you say it.

Cynikal.Mindset

1. I have driven an wrx extensively
2. I have never focked up like in the videos nor have anybody else that I know
3. you're still an idiot that hates this site but still comes on here for some reason
4. I'm sure its a common issue but still no reason to not buy and/or drive the car agressively
5. I guess you have never seen a car travel 2 ways in the wet...but of course you are the smartest man alive and I forgot
6. maybe it was a ghost or gobblin that caused these accidents

phuviano

I'm pretty sure your car can handle better?? right? LOL. Oh I miss these awesome threads.

civicEJ1

iTrader: (2)

sick episode of top gear...theres so many evos in jamaica ull be amazed

BWek

Aryan What The Hell are you smoking? you are an expert on chassis dynamics? yes or no ? you watch some videos and all of a sudden wrx's are bad? they can't be raced on a circuit?

it's all about suspension tuning do you really think they(subaru) would build the STI so it could only be raced in gravel? i don't think it would last too long sitting that low... or with those super sticky street tires! I love these threads esp when a 15 year old trys to pass off as being older than he really is and trys to be king **** with his opinion then when somebody say's something that makes more sense him he gets all offensive...

lemme guess you were in computer class at whatever high school and you saw a video and figured there was a trend of wrx's crashing in this way

funny thing is that any car can crash that way regardless of awd, fwd and rwd

If you were smart and more diplomatic in your approach to this subject you may actually learn something but instead you are just another ignorant 15 year old know it all.

thats my rant thank you and good bye

BWek

What public road is perfectly smooth and if there is one how many are there? lol

this is common in all cars i've had my civic sideways on tarmac coming off the highway

ol Dusty

iTrader: (2)

I almost crashed like that because of the WRX in front of me taking the corner to tight and kicking tons of gravel up all over the apex. My back wheels spun as I was already accelerating hard through the apex in RWD.

This further proves the OP is right. their a menace even to other cars on the road. DOWN WITH SUBBIES!

BWek

so the subbie in front of you was driver error? not the car?

k_r_a_c_k_e_r

iTrader: (3)

Wow.. that first video is nuts!

starboy869

Why is this guy still around?

crazychinaman

lol

SaYjAiBaO

clearly you have no idea what you're talking about nor do you have any REAL experience tuning these cars. WTF is "their awd back fires"? i didn't watch the videos but i'm not going to even bother. just listening to you rant about how awd subbies suck is just enough to know that you are indeed, a dumbass. so don't come out and talk about cars like you know them because really, you don't.

SaYjAiBaO

oh yeah and the real reason why subbies aren't as good as evos on tarmac is because of the suspension design. subaru's have long stroke suspension and are designed to handle better in tricky conditions. put a sti and an evo on tarmac, the evo would have an edge. put the two on the same track in wet or snow or even dirt, the sti has the upper hand.

usdm

lol, i think thats what he was trying to prove, in a different way, but you are right.