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Old 27-Jun-2010, 09:13 PM
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So I'm up against 2 candidates for my project car, as the one I was going to buy backed out.

The one which is the least expensive comes with an aftermarket exhaust, tints, decent rims and a relatively easy task to eliminate all surface rust.

What is needed is a wheel alignment and a o2 censor for emissions. Apparently this also ends up ruining the catalytic converter, says the owner. Lies? or True?

My question is for the Honda Guru's here. What are some outcomes of an o2 censor failing? Or a catalytic converter? (No need to waste your time and explain every scenario. Would help to know a 'top 3' expensive scenarios.)

The benefit of owning a DSM allows you to experience many repairs. With this being said when the guy mentioned wheel alignment. Other then it just needing a wheel alignment. Wheel bearings and crappy shocks would require this to occur more often then usual right?

I appreciate and thank anyone helping me out on this in advance

P.s. Sha my bad in advance if wrong section.
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Old 27-Jun-2010, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HabaneroRed06Si View Post
What is needed is a wheel alignment and a o2 censor for emissions. Apparently this also ends up ruining the catalytic converter, says the owner. Lies? or True?
i'm not too certain but i believe running too rich? clogs it up or something
and bullshyttt... o2 sensors read the exhaust and tells it if its running rich or leann... if the o2 sensor causes the cat converter to be ruined everyone would have messed up cats, right. so the guy likes to talk out of his ***..... i'd say take it to a independent mekkanniikkk and get it checked out before you embark on your build journey

ANOTHER THING....for the whole alignment thing. buddy i wouldn't do it unless he finished that issue before, if he hit a curb or something it could have messed up steering components right up to your steering rack (yep the rack ) and thats when everything goes sour... i would make the dude get that done atleast....

i hit a curb on my 94 accord and to this very day couldn't get it perfectly alligned... and im not gunna buy the steering rack that it requires lol.. its my beaaater
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Old 27-Jun-2010, 11:32 PM
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Well as stated above, faulty o2 will cause the car to run rich or lean. And it WILL destroy the cat. If its an OEM cat or high quality cat, then it'll take quite a while, but if its been replaced with a cheap one, it could break up any time now. Hell those cheap cats fail after less than a year running with good afr. So other than the cat and a dirty rear bumper, there is nothing that could be seriously affected. Oh and my o2 gave out a while ago, and other than crappy milage, everything is fine.

Regarding alignment, I would strongly suggest to just jack the car up and check ball joints/tie rods. It could be a warn joint that is causing alignment issues. Or one of them was replaced and alignment was never done.
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Old 27-Jun-2010, 11:42 PM
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Well as stated above, faulty o2 will cause the car to run rich or lean. And it WILL destroy the cat. If its an OEM cat or high quality cat, then it'll take quite a while, but if its been replaced with a cheap one, it could break up any time now. Hell those cheap cats fail after less than a year running with good afr. So other than the cat and a dirty rear bumper, there is nothing that could be seriously affected. Oh and my o2 gave out a while ago, and other than crappy milage, everything is fine.

Regarding alignment, I would strongly suggest to just jack the car up and check ball joints/tie rods. It could be a warn joint that is causing alignment issues. Or one of them was replaced and alignment was never done.
So when the car keeps getting faulty o2 censors is it because of poor fuel management? OR just crappy parts?
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Old 28-Jun-2010, 09:58 AM
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(Moved this thread to the maintenance section, cause most of what you're asking about is basic maintenance...)

What martin said with regards to the O2 and cat is true/correct.

With regards to alignment, crappy shocks (dampers) and/or a bad wheel bearing will not cause bad alignment. A very bad/loose ball joint, bent control arm or tie-rod end, or very bad bushings can all cause the alignment to be off. Replacing these parts with new ones should not require an alignment, with the exception of the tie-rod end (in which case the tow needs to be checked/adjusted). If one or more components are bent, they should all be replaced.

Bad alignment is when one of the following settings are not within spec.
-camber
-caster
-tow

(I trust you can google them if you are unsure what these are)

A bad shock or wheel bearing will have no effect on such settings. It is possible for a wheel bearing to be loose enough to effect alignment...If that is the case, the car shouldn't even be driven! lol
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