imported_higguns

ok, i installed an alarm/starter combo a while ago and i have every wire hooked up except the neurtral safety switch wire.... cuz i cant find the neutral safety switch wires not to mention the neutral safety switch. anyways i've had ppl tell me its just above the clutch pedal but i can't find it. so i was wondering if someone could post a picture of it or describe it better. ps its a 1990 crx si.
thanks in advance

spazio10

can you start your car without pressing the clutch pedal?
if you can it might have been removed

imported_higguns

no it won't start unless i push the clutch in thats the prob or else i could just ground out the wire from the alarm

imported_loudsubz

you can bypass the wire, the clutch switch is just a simple open/close circuit.

was your car ever an auto and got it converted to manual? if so it might have been left out, mine was not hooked up.

Can you start your car normally now without the clutch pedal down?

if you look up under the dash you should be able to see it, the whole assembly is quite large and the switch will be up more under the dash.

imported_Thrill_House

Only automatic cars have neutral saftey switches in them, if you are running a remote starter desgined for an automatic car in a manaul car then thats just asking for trouble.

imported_loudsubz

oh snap nm i should read the post better next time

imported_Thrill_House

If I were you then I would seriously sell that remote starter and get one desgned for a manual car because what you have hooked up right now is potentialy very dangerous as your car could easily start moving if left in gear, and just think what would happen if you car was parked near an intersection and you accidently started it in gear and it rolled into traffic. Huge liabilty and not worth the risk, do the smart thing and get the proper remote starter for your car, I was in your shoes and I did.

imported_loudsubz

Even if he got a manual remote start, hes going to have no security anyways since theres no way to tell if its in neutral, unless he designs some sort of position switch on the shifter to tell...

other than that he will just have to make sure hes in neutral everytime he leavs.

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iTrader: (2)

you can buy a remote starter that will work only on standard cars and the neutral safety wire just has to be hooked up to ground.the clutch by pass needs a relay to close the circuit when the remote starter comes on.

kwikb16a2

On remote starters designed for manuals theres a procedure everytime you shutdown the car. Set the e brake, press the remote start button, remove key, get out and lock door. The car will turn off shortly after locking the door. Thats how the remote starter knows the car isnt in gear.

imported_Thrill_House

He's right, I have a manual remote starter for my car and there a whole entire procedure that you have to do just to be able to start the car.

imported_higguns

ya i have the one for a manual car,
kwikb16a2 and Thrill_House are rite, it has a whole proceedure before you turn the car off.... now does anyone know exactly where this neutral safety switch is or can someone please post a pic of under their dash showing it??

imported_Thrill_House

There is no neutral safety switch in a standard car! Thats what weve been getting at here. I think that you must be thinking of the clutch relay for the bypass wire which is probably up near the drivers side kick panel.

imported_Thrill_House

Is this unit by chance a compustar or viper unit? Cause I know that both of these units have a certian model that offers both standard and automatic modules in one unit which are selectable by a switch on the back usually. If you have one of these unit then you will have that extra wire for the neutral safety switch but you wont need to use it.

imported_higguns

ok so say i just ground out the neutral safety switch wire, but my car still wont start unless my clutch is pressed in, what do i have to bypass to get it to work?? and where is it?

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iTrader: (2)

you will have a plug on top of the clutch pedal with two wires going to it you will need a relay to bypass it or you can just join the two together but if you do it that way you will no longer have to press in your clutch pedal to start your car. I don't recomend that way because you compromise your cars safety.if you need to know how to hook up the relay call me 905-826-8998 and will either explain it too you or draw you a schematic.

imported_zhu

what will actually happen if you try to start the engine with the car in gear? Will it start, lurch forward, and stall? if thats the case, then it shouldn't move more than 10cm if your handbrake is on.

imported_Thrill_House

10cm? buddy the car will move way further then that, i know cause ive tried it.

kwikb16a2

depends if u got the ebrake on or not and it can roll a longs way. I dont suggest this as it'll kill your starter in no time

imported_higguns

ok so clutch bypass wires are just above the clutch pedal?? i cant find them i guess i gotta look again