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Old 05-Jan-2004, 06:25 PM
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zc in 98

a zc wont work properly in a newer vehicle rite, like my 98? cuz the obd is different? i still want to pass smog, so is a dohc zc outta tha question?
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Old 05-Jan-2004, 06:52 PM
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its doable but not worth it, you would have to swap over a bunch of parts to get it to run correctly, and wiring too.

plsu isn't it illegal to swap an older engine into a newer car?
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Old 05-Jan-2004, 07:21 PM
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the second gen obd 1 dohc zc is completly doable...jsut get a obd2 to obd 1 jumper ......it is harder to find though....a dohc with a greddy kit on it or a custom turbo kit would be sweet
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the greddy sohc d16z6 turbo kit was originaly designed for the dohc zc...
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Old 05-Jan-2004, 10:34 PM
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dude u have a usdm ex which is 127hp sohc vtec...you can do a lot of things to that motor and get some decent performance out of it.
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Old 05-Jan-2004, 10:35 PM
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btw that pic of your car gives me boners
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Old 06-Jan-2004, 12:08 AM
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ya if you already have the sohc vtec motor in your ex tehn **** the zc...same hp almost the same torque...if anythign go b16 or b18b next...or jsut turbo that motor..you will kil most swapped coupes with a good kit on it..www.homemadeturbo.com check it out become a member and thank me later
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Old 06-Jan-2004, 09:16 AM
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ok, everyone has a hard on for homemadeturbo.com that's great.

Come play with the big boys now spracingsports, guys putting down 302whp from a D16... and all the way down to 200whp and all the way inbetween. My second home away from here is turbod16.com - come check us out. Also, it's an american forum, so you'll feel right at home
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Old 06-Jan-2004, 09:22 AM
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to answer your question...

it will bolt in
in Cali it's illegal to swap in a motor of a vintage older than the chassis
the wiring is possible, and actually kinda easy (you have more wires than you need, so instead of adding wires, you just have to splice and correctly hook up)

there would be no advantage.

For comparison, I plan to initially lay out 175 wheel hp (as soon as May this year), and with further mods (MSD 6BTD and J&S Safeguard) on the stock block I'll make 250 hp until I pop it, at which time I'll just replace it with a built version of the same block as well as Hondata and a bigger intercooler and lay down 300 hp.
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Old 06-Jan-2004, 09:58 AM
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what about his engine into my 4th gen? I can use any d-series cable tranny correct? what about obd2 ****?
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you can put a higher level OBD engine into an older chassis, you just won't use all the wiring, that's all. Only thing is with a dx model, you'll have to add MPFI wiring from the Si, plus the VTEC wiring if you wanna run a VTEC motor, and you'd run a D16Z6 OBD1 ECU, so you'd have to add a few wires, but if you were to run a newer non-VTEC motor, then you can just get the D16A6 wiring harness and splice the injectors in for OBD2 clips, and then run the D16A6 ECU with a D16Y7 non VTEC motor. It all depends on what you wanna do. D16Y7 and Si cable tranny would make a cheap easy to do combination!
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I can get dohc zc for $800 with tranny or d16y8 $800 for motor only + like $200 for tranny...not sure what to do. kinda want the newer motor for better reliability cuz im afraid of buying the zc and having it burn oil and ****.
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D16Y8s are known for spinning bearings

I can't help you there... key thing is to buy from a good reliable source that will give you a startup warranty so if it burns oil they'll take care of you. I'm not sure you are up to the task of rewiring a D16Y8 - it's not hard, but you have to have your head in the game. I know I could do it cuz to me it's just common sense, but I understand not everyone is like that. It may be a bigger bite than you can chew.
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Old 06-Jan-2004, 11:33 AM
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ok koo, then i guess ill just save up for the edelbrock turbo, instead of swappin the engine
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
D16Y8s are known for spinning bearings

Not just the Y8, but almost all D series. You just hear it happen more to Y8 I guess since the users who drive them hard like to hear the iddy biddy vtec engage and have a lead foot and rev beyond and back, basically killing the motor.

But yeah Ive heard of it happening to b7's too, and even a couple b16's.

The bearings in the D's are pretty crappy, so they usualy get swapped out for refined B series bearings or some aftermarket ones when they get work done.
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well i usually take it over vtec once or twice a day.... is that too much? will it wear the bearings?
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every day is kinda bad... I let mine rev about once a week when I drive it, sometimes even less frequently.
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Old 06-Jan-2004, 04:24 PM
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ok ill chill out a little with it... i just heard it was good for it to open it up at least once a day
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iof the greddy kit fits with modification, would the apexi kit?
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Old 06-Jan-2004, 07:13 PM
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yes...all the d16 manifolds will fit the zc just mgiht need to be porter out abit..no biggy...and yes homemadeturbo.com is hype now...I use to be religious to it liek 3-4 years ago when they didnt' even have enoguh money to keep the site up half the time...nwo look at it....either swap out your motor or save for a apexi or edlebrock kit..edl beign the best of the 2 for simplicity
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