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imported_Mikeye 07-May-2005 03:11 PM

Y8 tranny into Y7 engine? Any suggestions?
 
Hey,
Just wondering if I should put a y8 tranny (shorter gears) into my y7 engine?

I just want something fun to drive and quick (obviously not lightning fast). I was thinking y8 tranny ($200) with an OEM exedy clutch and a lightened 12lb. flywheel ($400).

After installation, the total should be around $800-$1000 which is about my budget. What you guys think? Any other suggestions in my budget?

Thanks.

Dr.K 07-May-2005 03:20 PM

Ya....Save your money and do a swap....LOL...............j/k...
Keep your tranny, Buy the Clutch and Get a 50 Shot. It seems like your searching for this holy grail that will help you buck everyone for $1000........It aint' gonna happen..lol. But if you install the Clutch and throw on a 50 shot your car will be a total sleeper. It won't be insanely fast but There isn't much else that will give you those kind of power gains within your budget.

imported_Mikeye 07-May-2005 07:54 PM

well i havent looked into nitrous. How much am i looking at for a 50 shot?

Dr.K 08-May-2005 12:45 AM

You alway's want a wet kit. Around $675-800 for a Nitrous Express kit. Do some research before you dive into this stuff though. www.nitrousexpress.com .... check the FAQ's.

bbarbulo 09-May-2005 02:24 AM

nitrous is cheap to buy, expensive habit to maintain. filling bottles every week sucks, and having a cop look under the hood aint much fun neither.

don't listen to ****ty advice such as the above posts by Dr.K

go ahead with the Y8 thanny, but skip the clutch. if you are doing the work yourself, then should you have to do a clutch later, it's not a big deal. replace the bearings and stuff, but hang onto the clutch. it should be good for about 200+K kms.

Instead of the clutch, get a Y8 intake manifold and a B series throttle body.

Dr.K 09-May-2005 05:33 PM

****ty advice?.........Who say's to change a tranny and NOT change the clutch?. That my friend is what I call ****ty advice. You might as well change it when its out. And this kid's made numerous post's about making his car fast with minimal money. Of course im going to mention Nitrous.

imported_Mikeye 10-May-2005 10:12 AM


Originally posted by bbarbulo
nitrous is cheap to buy, expensive habit to maintain. filling bottles every week sucks, and having a cop look under the hood aint much fun neither.

don't listen to ****ty advice such as the above posts by Dr.K

go ahead with the Y8 thanny, but skip the clutch. if you are doing the work yourself, then should you have to do a clutch later, it's not a big deal. replace the bearings and stuff, but hang onto the clutch. it should be good for about 200+K kms.

Instead of the clutch, get a Y8 intake manifold and a B series throttle body.

What kind of changes would I feel if I do a Y8 tranny change with oem clutch and 12 lb. flywheel, Y8 intake manifold and a B series throttle body???

Nova_Dust 10-May-2005 12:29 PM


Originally posted by Mikeye


What kind of changes would I feel if I do a Y8 tranny change with oem clutch and 12 lb. flywheel, Y8 intake manifold and a B series throttle body???

My guess:

Shorter gear than DX = a little faster acceleration off the line. Light flywheel will add to that as well. Y8 IM and TB is mostly for the car to take in more air to aid the flow better.

bbarbulo 10-May-2005 06:04 PM


Originally posted by Dr.K
****ty advice?.........Who say's to change a tranny and NOT change the clutch?. That my friend is what I call ****ty advice. You might as well change it when its out. And this kid's made numerous post's about making his car fast with minimal money. Of course im going to mention Nitrous.
spraying is not an option for making a daily driver fast. refilling bottles sucks. if he's changing his tranny himself, then doing a clutch later is not a big deal. stock clutches easly do 200K+ so why would he spend the money now when that money can be used towards a Y8 manifold.

Dr.K 10-May-2005 06:09 PM

Do you have I/H/E yet? If you do the Tranny and Intake manifold will help out huge. People say intake and Header's are a waste. But there's dyno #'s to prove they do give you gain's. Sure header's only give you 4-6hp but combine that with an Intake,Exhaust and a Pulley kit and you will get some significan't gain's for minimal money. Plus the Bigger throttle body on teh Y8 manifold will help.

Dr.K 10-May-2005 06:11 PM

i just mentioned changing the clutch because if your going to be beating on the car teh stock one will wear out pretty damn quick. Ive seen it happen. And I got a Centerforce in my Stock D15 right now and I absolutly love it. The ON/OFF action really reduces clutch wear because you dont' ride it when taking off.

imported_Mikeye 10-May-2005 06:44 PM

Only exhaust. So far, I've done the suspension and now moving on to drivetrain and engine mods.

The thing is, I just want something thats fun to drive because this is my first car. I dont need something dishing out 180+ HP because i'm not gonna go to the track. Just normal daily driving, but I want my car to be fun to drive.

Well, I have money for the clutch and flywheel. It's not a lot on ebay and plus the seller said he can send to me as gift and declare a value of $20 =))))). In other words, no brokerage and customs!

Now, I'm gonna try to pick up a Y8 tranny! I really hope I'll feel a big difference.

bbarbulo 10-May-2005 10:29 PM

ummmm the Y8 doesn't have a bigger throttle body Dr.K

Dr.K 11-May-2005 12:27 AM

I mean the bigger throttle body ON the Y8 manifold....as in a bigger throttly body as well.
And now Mikeye that you've finnally explained your situation we can continue. Its smart you've done suspension first. I haven't done suspension and im right into a swap. I regret it. But Im in a rush and I want to go fast.....lol. But for you its time for Bolt on's. Intake, plug's,wire's, shift kit's ect ect. All the little thing's you can do yourself that doesn't cost much money. There all functional and help out in there own way. This is a good time to learn and wrench a little bit because its your first car. Good practice.

imported_Mikeye 11-May-2005 09:37 AM

So what differences should I feel? Quicker accel? Smooth shifts?

Dr.K 11-May-2005 11:56 PM

with the flywheel your rev's will drop quicker between shifts and when popping it in neutral. Not excessively though. your not going super light. As for the tranny it will pull just a touch harder in every gear. Im not sure about the rev's on the highway though. Ive only driven a few car's with the y8 tranny(Si,EL). Most of my experience myself with civic's fast and slow were with the Econo gears. So I can't really say how the gears will work with the base engine. But with bolt ons the quick gears can only help. It will be pretty peppy and fun to drive, thats for sure.

imported_Mikeye 12-May-2005 01:25 AM

You said most of ur experiences with civics were with econo gears? Meaning the Y7 and similar trannys?

Dr.K 13-May-2005 02:53 AM

Yep.....Ive driven a few stock civic's and My buddy had a really fast 93 DX coupe with I/H/E and the Head's shaved. Sucker moved damn good for a 1.5 SOHC!!!! and it had the stock economy gears like your Y7. But Ive also driven cars with the Y8 tranny and they are much better. But then again the engine's were better as well.
Your car does have potential. With those gears and some Bolt on's your car will be decently quick.


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