imported_QRTR

You won't need NOS with an H22 motor ...LOL J/K

WayFastWhitie

Ignorance.

Dr.K

People fear what they don't understand................lol

imported_loudsubz

no because it still boils down to money, to some its not worth it no matter how good the engine was

you don't see everyone with C5's now do you

MarvoSI99

you have no idea what youre talking about bro. weigh the motors before you say something close minded like that.

imported_loudsubz

You said:

I replied, with well woulnd't more peopler get a C5 swap then, which makes sense since its a good motor but its pricey.

Thing with h22 is its not direct bolt in so some people don't like the idea of chopping there car to do it as well

imported_EM1Turbo

more people do do the c5 even though it costs more.

b16civic hit the nail on the head. it has way more quirks then any of the other honda b series.

plain and simple.

not to mention a c5 hatch vs h22..the h22 will lose

nothing wrong with b16s either. you can find those swaps for 1200ish these days

imported_loudsubz

Most people do the C5 swap cause its a B series, thusfor easier to install, wire, change pieces on it after etc

Of course it woul dhave quirks, its not a B series, its a diff design, does it make it bad, no.

C5 hatch has no *****, where is the torque Its more a drivers race, but h22 is more fun, more useable torque, no trying to get little johnny to go at 8000rpm lol

b16's suck, who would even design such a torqless motor, I think my 10speed bike makes more torque, yeh you keep telling yourself the b16 is good lol

imported_EM1Turbo

most do c5's cause they are the best(not talking k series here)

I never said the h22 is a bad swap however it has enough retarded quirks to make you really want to forget about it lol broken axles

c5 has no *****? put down the crack pipe .
you think the h22 has torque? non the honda motors have torque. lol. you want torque buy an lt1 or ls1.

more useable torque...a little..not like youll notice a difference anyways... the gearing is much tighter on the b series which easily makes up for the tiny bit lower torque.

its like the h22 is some torch monster. i dun think so .


again. nothing wrong with a b16. **** i dont even have one anymore but hey...I dont go around bashing it to try and make myself feel better , espeically if i loose to a car with one .



keep telling yourself how much torque the h22 has. LMAO.


none of these motors make huge torque after all theya re 1.6-2.2 litre n/a engines. what do you expect?

more people use b series to race...why? if the h22 was so much better, why wouldnt they use it?
there are more b16's going fast down the 1/4 then h22's. if the h22 was the better choice..we would be seeing it much much more.

imported_loudsubz

Well if installed right you woulnd't have to worry about broken axles, like Cablerat has, I dont hear him complaining about anything, but its a frankenstein swap, so you are bound to run into a few quirks with this engine in a diff platform.

c5 does have no *****, 30ft/lbs of torque is alot in a light chasis, 130 vs 156, or in some cases 163 in the Type S is quite substatial. And comparing it to 111 ft lbs is even more so.

I have been in a b18c1 car and its enough for me to notice that there is a big difference, even if it is pushing my fat pig of a car.

Oh I dont have to tell myself it has torque, I know

but im not comparing to a big block, keep it in perspective, apples to apples

I never said the h22 was the end all be all of motor swaps, it depends what you want to do, if you have the budget and are serious about spending money on building the engine, the h22 can make some nice power but its gonna cost you alot

imported_alwaysoverkill

yes the c5 would win...cause its being reved into where it shines. thats not the thing though. daily driving the h22 would be nice cause it has the torque and the power to get you into the spot you need into and to have some fun.

be honest, how often are you gonna hit 8400rpm in toronto and hell even on the 401 near toronto....not very likely unless its 3am.

that said, i'd settle for any of the B16, B18 or H22's but if i had to pick, i'd take either B18C1 or H22A. B18C1 for easier install, but H22A for torque/power for daily driving. also if you do track the car in solo etc auto-x then yes, B16 would be ideal or B18C's cause Honda/Acura already understeers enough when pushed hard, you don't need more weight to help. but on the street this is not an issue so how can you guys say the H22 is a lard ***, it makes no difference street driving.

you have to do the swap that suits your needs. if your the type of person who revs the **** out of your engine or goes into 3rd gear on the 401 to pass then yes, B18C5 or B16. if you like to play around but don't want to rev the **** out of it everytime you want the thing to go...H22A.

imported_loudsubz

That comment irks me.

If that was the case, the h22 would shine as well since its peak power and torque are down lower, so it would be in the next gear already. Like I said its a drivers race

imported_Cablerat

C5 vs H22A is totally driver's race.
trust me...

In the end who cares.. Install whatever you want, drive whatever you want...

Nova_Dust

D SERIES!!!

*kicks sand on the ground*

*looks up in the sky*

imported_EM1Turbo

its like all other motors struggle for daily use cause of their lower torque numbers????/ ahhahaha.

anyways. we can argue till the cows come home.. b series is better..bottom line or we would 100% see more h's used.

people arent going to pick the ****tier motor..for fun.

buy the swap you want! any of them will do just fine!

imported_QRTR

edit....don't wanna start a race war....LOL

imported_loudsubz

well yes your right, my old D series I used to have to push her real hard to get going

you can't say b series is better cause the b20 sucks (if boosting)

even if the H was best (which I am not saying is) we still wouldn't see it being used. Not everyone likes to have to hack parts of there car to fit the shifter in, some rather it just all bolt in and no major damage done

you keep saying ****tier but you don't really go on as to say why, and if it was as ****ty as you say woulnd't close to nil people run it? Yet I go on honda tech are plenty of people have 22 swaps and no problems, you seem to be making a mountain out of a mole hill.

If B was so good why did your b16 have problems? Hmmmm

please, keep the drama to csi where its meant to be