wheel hop...
 

how can this be countered? it never happens when its dry, the tires might slip a bit but they will still pull and be cool... but in the rain if they start to spin they jump/bounce somewhat violently... its not a huge concern cause i dont really care how my car accelerates in the rain anyways... but can that be countered somehow? :shrugs:

well in the rain it's bound to happen...but stiffer motor mounts (window weld) is a good way to combat it

Are your tires bald? Keep your foot off the floor. It's very slipperly in the rain. If your loosing traction in wet, dont be so aggressive when accelerating.

In a dry condition, wheel hop will happen with a higher hp. Drag radials, traction bars, and motor mounts will stop this to a point.

could be worn bushings...
how are the condition of your struts?

I bet its the tires!

I agree....prolly bad struts

shocks are 2 month old illumina's and all the bushings are all month old energy suspension urethane... so neither of those are at fault


motor mounts could be at fault... still waiting for my urethane ones...

but i would imagine in the rain the tires would just spin since they are slipping... and the tires do have fairly low tread but i'd imagine that would also just let them slip?

btw civics from 92-00 dont have struts... they have shocks... and like i said its 100% NOT the shocks... they are practically new and not showing any signs of failure

tranny mount?

wrong, wrong, wrong...

wrong

wheel hop is a direct result of the LCA deflection. bad bushings in the LCA will cause severe wheel hop. This is why front lower tie bars and Z10 radius rods and Jim Fab bars were invented. To stop wheel hop. An LSD would help too. :)

But the main thing is to stabilize the front lower control arms.

traction bars :D

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it's not the tires ... my RA1's were bouncing yesterday and those have tons of tracion.....

:dito:

but how can my lca's deflect if they have urethane bushings all around them and a really stiff spring/shock combo?

it likes to wobble, it's not always in the bushings... though it could be. it can also be in the subframe. that's why the lower brace connects the two, and radius rods connect it to the front rad cradle and bumper supports.

so if i make up some bars what points should i be connecting to make it not wobble?

but its definately not the bushings... they are all new :)

TRACTION BARS :) STOP WHEEL HOP...... TO THE TOP :)

the defection is not nesscarily in the up and down motion but in the front to back motion which is an issue with our lca's

urathane bushings do not fully dampen this...

you know that big ass bushing that connects to the arm coming off the lca pointing towards the rear of the car? is that urathane ....? that arm was installed by honda to prevent front to back motion....

everything is urethane :p

traction bars sound sexy

have you seen how much traction bars cost?

you need to tie the LCAs to the bumper points... I recommend you buy a complete kit, don't try to make your own. I've learned that on a car like ours, it's just easier to buy everything. I mean, everything is available, so leave the manufacture to the pros, and you do what you do best...