imported_Team Rukus

Hey guys sup after thinking about this whole conversion thing.
I jus noticed that there is more to it then the parts listed on the article by jugglez.

So does anyone or even KSR know what exactly is needed?

imported_94EG6HB

I thought this seemed right??

Am I wrong??

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Jugglez

That hybrid-honda article is more of a documentary of one person's experince.. he doesn't even list the parts involved.. i listed all necessary parts involved.. everything else that may have been mentioned might not be neccessary for your particle car/motor.

imported_94EG6HB

Is this really that poorly documented??

Is Duy's info and hybrid's the only online documentation??

This is important ..

Well what do we know we need for sure??

And what do we think we need???

That's a good place to start...

Jugglez

It's not that simple.. there are differences in each gen civic, some small but can be very important ...and also if you're swapping the motor at the same time, the steps and parts involved can be very different.

for instance on the 5th gens, you will need a new center console if you want an OEM-look after the conversion. the stock auto center console does not house the manual shifter and shift boot very well. but on the 6thgen's it is plug and play.

I made that point very clear in my article.

[edit] just wanted to add the best person who could probably best document a full article for various generations and motor/tranny combo's would be KSR.. he's done many successful tranny conversions... but that's a major task in itself.

imported_94EG6HB

Your talking about the center peice with the transmission selector??

not the optionial audio console right??

There are subtle differences in the EG platform??

Or across generations???

Jugglez

yeah just the center peice where the shifter is, not the whole audio/climate control panel... differnces are across generations.. and if you wanna talk 4th gen it becomes even more complicated with the cable actuated tranny systems... one of my best friends had an '88 hatch converted from auto to cable tranny and worked fine.. but i don't know what's involved, didn't even bother looking into that.

imported_94EG6HB

90EFHB is having a ZC stuffed into his EF in the next week or two by Ken...

And having the tranny converted...

Maybe Ken and Dave will let us document it??

I think for now we would only need to document 4th, 5th and 6th gens...

What do you think???

KS-R

LOL.. unfortuantely for you guys.. I think we can do the swap faster than you guys can document it.. Last week we did a zc swap in about 2 hours TOTAL... That includes pulling the old motor out.. and swapping parts between the two motors and dropping it back in, wired up and fired it up.

Well, mind you it wasn't an auto2manual conversion.. So..

90EFHB

I have full faith in Ken and I would highly recommend other TCC members go get work done by him.
As for documenting.... maybe 94EG6HB should doc his GSR conversion to automatic....oh wait it already is auto...
Is there really that many auto GSR's?
In regards to the cable clutch making things more complicated, I would suggest that is an incorrect statement. It is actually easier to do a cable swap as opposed to doing the 92 and up hydralic swap....hence also why the swap costs more

KS-R

In North America... GSR came in manual, but overseas.. a fair bit of them came in auto... I guess Japanese people don't like shifting as much.

As for the cable vs hydro clutch... Depends how you look at it.. Basically almost the same amount of work/time, but the hydro clutch consists of more components.

Now if you're wondering why it's really the same amount of work... Basically it's cause of the design of the chassis. Some EF have the provisions for the clutch cable, but some don't.. so you'll have to modify accordingly. Also.. under the dash... there are more things in the way when replacing the pedal assembly. Therefore requiring more time.

That's why I say it's really almost the same amount of work between the cable and hydro clutch.

With regards to hydro clutch costing more... it's really cause there's more parts too it.. and it's relatively newer... So... places try to charge more.

imported_94EG6HB

So back to the original question??

Can we document it??

I have a 4.3 Megapixel Camera X2 256MB CF cards..

Dave are you sticking around for the swap?

Ken, when I get this motor I wanna keep the A/C in my car?

Should I buy the motor with the A/C compressor on the motor?

Or seperately?

Will an A/C compressor from a 2000 USDM B16A fit on my JDM B18C?

Losing A/C is not an option..

Thanks...

KS-R

Sorry, due to insurance regulations, customers are not allowed to be around for the swap, etc... But I'll be more than happy to take pics, etc..

As for the A/C... Just get the complete swap... I'll take care of the A/C..

imported_Team Rukus

So when is this happening?
and during the process can you guys be very detailed as possible. I wna know EVERYTHING that is involved in this auto to manual swap.

The reason I wanna swap my car from auto to manual is because i got this car for really cheap about 8 thousand dollars LESS then the retail value and this is ONE of the MAIN reason's i got this car is auto in the first place.

EL_CIVIC

hey i wanna learn this too..=(

bah.....
ken..how long would it take u to swap my motor with the tranny conversion? i mean time wise? can it be done within a day? or so? expectin to change motor soon..just waitin for some cash to come in...

how much for b20z with tranny conversion? ( i want the Z not the b20b, (99-00?) since it's rated at 146hp 146trq)
you told me before that for the b18b installed and tranny conversion would be in the area of 2800....
would it be more to get the b20 Z?

thanks man..
carlo

imported_Team Rukus

Hey ken how much would it cost for a b18c1 with a tranny conversion? prefrably a 99/00.
also do you also do ecu chipping?

PULOVR

Hey Ken...is it possible to do a swap.......ie....B16 or B18, (don't know the letters), and keep it as an auto tranny set-up? Would it be harder or easier? (Iwould think it would be easier). My car is auto right now.

As for the rest of you..... I don't need your smart *** remarks......

KS-R

EL Civic...

PM me for prices... Also.. People have to understand, when you get a qoute.. It's for that time... Not a year down the road.. Prices change too much in this industry... Engines prices change on a daily/weekly basis. So can't go by something quoted last month... due to supply and demand...

Team Rukus...

I can get ahold of GSR conversions... That's not a problem.. As for 99/00.. That's a little harder, but should be doable. Have to check with suppliers.. But they're usually a little older.. Like 96, 97. Or even 94, 95.. As for pricing.. PM me please.

PULOVR

It's absolutely possible... Actually.. there's a fair amount of motors that come over from Japan that are auto. So finding an auto tranny won't be a problem. I'll have to find out about pricing if you're really interested, yes, it's doable. Not much easier.. cause you still have to change the same amount of stuff except for the shiftlinkage.

imported_94EG6HB

Thank you...

and..

Thank you...