what kind of FPR?
for kind of fuel pressure regulator do i need for a turbo set up?
will the factory one work? is a cheap B&M commandflo ok? |
i'd just leave the stock one
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Not a bad idea to put a gauge on it though, to keep an eye on it.
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if you use a fuel pressure regulator check the pressure before installing it and reset it at the stock setting until you actually need it i dont think you will unless your running high HP
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so whats the point of getting a guage and adjustable FPR just to set it to stock?
Raising fuel pressure is a crappy way of squeezing a little more out of maxed out injectors, instead of raising the fuel pressure, i'd get bigger injectors.....then you'll be running your injectors at a lower duty cycle (which is easier on the injectors) and at a normal/sane fuel pressure (which is easier on the fuel pump). |
Slightly offtopic.
Andrew, say you switch from 240cc to 370cc injectors, do you need to tune the ECU or do anything to the car otherwise? Thanks |
hells ya you do.
Anytime you switch injectors you need to tune the car, or at an absolute bare minimum get a basemap set up for the larger injectors. If you use 370cc injectors on an ecu setup for 240cc the 370cc injectors will be dumping way too much fuel b/c the ecu thinks the injectors are 240cc so it keeps them open as long as it would need for the 240s to deliver the right amount of fuel, but if in reality they're 370cc the injectors will stay open for too long, dumping in too much fuel. Set the ecu up for 370cc injectors and the ecu will shorten the injectors pulsewidth, thus delivering less fuel. To summarize. different injectors = tune different cams = tune add a turbo/supercharger = tune raise the compression = tune build a frankenstein engine (lsvtec or b20vtec) = tune If you do any of the above mentioned things and don't tune, you're taking a chance on how well the car will run and how safe it will be. Sure you can install some 370cc injectors on a stock ecu, and it most likely WILL run, but it'll run pretty crappy and smoke lots of black smoke. |
im going to be running 550cc injectors and am hoping for around 250whp on my stock motor.... will that require a fpr? if not and i just need a re-tune will the stock fuel pump be adequate as well?
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Unless you get close to maxing out those 550's, the stock fpr is fine. If you upgrade your fuel pump, I would also install an aftermarket fpr.
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Originally posted by 187Chor im going to be running 550cc injectors and am hoping for around 250whp on my stock motor.... will that require a fpr? if not and i just need a re-tune will the stock fuel pump be adequate as well? You do need a better pump. 550's for 250whp will be absouletly fine. |
Originally posted by zeeman hells ya you do. Anytime you switch injectors you need to tune the car, or at an absolute bare minimum get a basemap set up for the larger injectors. If you use 370cc injectors on an ecu setup for 240cc the 370cc injectors will be dumping way too much fuel b/c the ecu thinks the injectors are 240cc so it keeps them open as long as it would need for the 240s to deliver the right amount of fuel, but if in reality they're 370cc the injectors will stay open for too long, dumping in too much fuel. Set the ecu up for 370cc injectors and the ecu will shorten the injectors pulsewidth, thus delivering less fuel. To summarize. different injectors = tune different cams = tune add a turbo/supercharger = tune raise the compression = tune build a frankenstein engine (lsvtec or b20vtec) = tune If you do any of the above mentioned things and don't tune, you're taking a chance on how well the car will run and how safe it will be. Sure you can install some 370cc injectors on a stock ecu, and it most likely WILL run, but it'll run pretty crappy and smoke lots of black smoke. |
glad i could help
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wouldn't 550cc be overkill for 250whp?
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i heard that if you use a stock fpr, cylinder #1 has a chance of running lean.... how true is this?
bananax i plan on running higher boost once the internal are upgraded by next spring, infact i hope the 550's will be big enough.. |
Originally posted by bananax wouldn't 550cc be overkill for 250whp? |
650/680cc min if your buying injectors as 550's @ the 300 range is getting close to max duty.
Always go over kill on injectors |
Originally posted by brianmcgaugh Always go over kill on injectors Anytime you boost anything, you need to make sure your fuel system is more than able to supply enough fuel. Also it gives you the option to upgrade for more power down the road. |
Stock is fine.
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