Turbo B16A Setup.....
10-Sep-2003, 01:22 PM
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Turbo B16A Setup.....
I'm just wondering how much it would cost to turbo my civic ? Its my dream to do it. What would I have to get ? I was thinking of doing a DSM turbo. But then again, I have no clue. So inform me on how much and what 
10-Sep-2003, 01:30 PM
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I wouldn't even think about it in your case rice... not without $4000 in the bank.
Also, no offense, but this is the reality of it - you do not have enough experience with cars to be doing this sort of thing. In 2-3 years, then maybe yes.
Also, no offense, but this is the reality of it - you do not have enough experience with cars to be doing this sort of thing. In 2-3 years, then maybe yes.
the car is only as fast as the driver
10-Sep-2003, 01:39 PM
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speed costs money, and as I understand it, you don't have much (as per your big *** dent-in-fender thread). besides that, being an inexperienced driver, I would think it dangerous for you to have more power than you have now. I recommend trying your hand at auto-x with some of the guys here... surferboy, jooksingkid, gatherer, ryanhook, cosmic... and improve your skill level there before you start messing with your car.
10-Sep-2003, 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
speed costs money, and as I understand it, you don't have much (as per your big *** dent-in-fender thread). besides that, being an inexperienced driver, I would think it dangerous for you to have more power than you have now. I recommend trying your hand at auto-x with some of the guys here... surferboy, jooksingkid, gatherer, ryanhook, cosmic... and improve your skill level there before you start messing with your car.
speed costs money, and as I understand it, you don't have much (as per your big *** dent-in-fender thread). besides that, being an inexperienced driver, I would think it dangerous for you to have more power than you have now. I recommend trying your hand at auto-x with some of the guys here... surferboy, jooksingkid, gatherer, ryanhook, cosmic... and improve your skill level there before you start messing with your car.
I dont find it fun going around pylons and stuff like that. ( Just not my thing, i'm not putting it down (gatherer)) I'm more of a speed kind of guy. I dont want to rice out my car. The only thing I would do if anything is make my interior amazing. BUT I WANT MORE SPEED !
10-Sep-2003, 01:51 PM
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though you may not find it fun, it will be the cheapest "school" you'll ever attend. There are three ways to learn to drive a fast car... try it out yourself on the street and at high speed - crash and burn, try it out yourself with guidance from experienced ppl like veteran auto-xers, OR pay thousands of dollars for a high-perf school.
Auto-x is not per se for entertainment value, it's more for learning to keep your eyes up and to drive with your peripheral vision. This may come as a shock to you, but the best - and safest - drivers are ones who drive with their eyes. Until you learn this, you do not need a faster car. You're 16 or 17 now, right? If this car was ALL the speed HAPPY ever needed, what makes you think it doesn't satisfy your needs?
You must first learn to use 100% of what you have, in order to make the move to something more powerful and be able to truly appreciate it.
I'm not saying this cuz I'm a jackass... I'm saying this cuz I think you are making a mistake saying you need more, and if you listen to me, you will:
1. save yourself a buttload of money
2. become a better driver
3. make wiser decisions as you learn more about your car
Beating Torrey should NOT be at the top of your to-do list. If you want to beat him, just go have your **** dyno tuned... I'm betting you will find close to 10 WHEEL hp if you have the V-AFC dyno tuned, and rather than spend $4K + on a turbo, you should spend $200 for tuning and you'll beat him
Auto-x is not per se for entertainment value, it's more for learning to keep your eyes up and to drive with your peripheral vision. This may come as a shock to you, but the best - and safest - drivers are ones who drive with their eyes. Until you learn this, you do not need a faster car. You're 16 or 17 now, right? If this car was ALL the speed HAPPY ever needed, what makes you think it doesn't satisfy your needs?
You must first learn to use 100% of what you have, in order to make the move to something more powerful and be able to truly appreciate it.I'm not saying this cuz I'm a jackass... I'm saying this cuz I think you are making a mistake saying you need more, and if you listen to me, you will:
1. save yourself a buttload of money
2. become a better driver
3. make wiser decisions as you learn more about your car
Beating Torrey should NOT be at the top of your to-do list. If you want to beat him, just go have your **** dyno tuned... I'm betting you will find close to 10 WHEEL hp if you have the V-AFC dyno tuned, and rather than spend $4K + on a turbo, you should spend $200 for tuning and you'll beat him
10-Sep-2003, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
though you may not find it fun, it will be the cheapest "school" you'll ever attend. There are three ways to learn to drive a fast car... try it out yourself on the street and at high speed - crash and burn, try it out yourself with guidance from experienced ppl like veteran auto-xers, OR pay thousands of dollars for a high-perf school.
Auto-x is not per se for entertainment value, it's more for learning to keep your eyes up and to drive with your peripheral vision. This may come as a shock to you, but the best - and safest - drivers are ones who drive with their eyes. Until you learn this, you do not need a faster car. You're 16 or 17 now, right? If this car was ALL the speed HAPPY ever needed, what makes you think it doesn't satisfy your needs? You must first learn to use 100% of what you have, in order to make the move to something more powerful and be able to truly appreciate it.
I'm not saying this cuz I'm a jackass... I'm saying this cuz I think you are making a mistake saying you need more, and if you listen to me, you will:
1. save yourself a buttload of money
2. become a better driver
3. make wiser decisions as you learn more about your car
Beating Torrey should NOT be at the top of your to-do list. If you want to beat him, just go have your **** dyno tuned... I'm betting you will find close to 10 WHEEL hp if you have the V-AFC dyno tuned, and rather than spend $4K + on a turbo, you should spend $200 for tuning and you'll beat him
though you may not find it fun, it will be the cheapest "school" you'll ever attend. There are three ways to learn to drive a fast car... try it out yourself on the street and at high speed - crash and burn, try it out yourself with guidance from experienced ppl like veteran auto-xers, OR pay thousands of dollars for a high-perf school.
Auto-x is not per se for entertainment value, it's more for learning to keep your eyes up and to drive with your peripheral vision. This may come as a shock to you, but the best - and safest - drivers are ones who drive with their eyes. Until you learn this, you do not need a faster car. You're 16 or 17 now, right? If this car was ALL the speed HAPPY ever needed, what makes you think it doesn't satisfy your needs?
You must first learn to use 100% of what you have, in order to make the move to something more powerful and be able to truly appreciate it.I'm not saying this cuz I'm a jackass... I'm saying this cuz I think you are making a mistake saying you need more, and if you listen to me, you will:
1. save yourself a buttload of money
2. become a better driver
3. make wiser decisions as you learn more about your car
Beating Torrey should NOT be at the top of your to-do list. If you want to beat him, just go have your **** dyno tuned... I'm betting you will find close to 10 WHEEL hp if you have the V-AFC dyno tuned, and rather than spend $4K + on a turbo, you should spend $200 for tuning and you'll beat him
Thanks dude.I think I can beat torrey anyways. I also know that I need to get my vafc tuned, header bolt fixed, IACV valve changed, and it dyno'd and tuned to perfection.
Where can I get this done ?
10-Sep-2003, 02:16 PM
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IACV you can do yourself with an OEM part if you can find one.
header bolt, you MAY be able to do, removing the header altogether, and using a pair of ViseGrips to turn the bolt... of course being very careful not the mess up the gasket mating surface that's bound to be in close proximity.
tuning needs to be done at a reliable shop, I think one of the affiliates has a dyno... if you can find a DynoJet 248C, use that, otherwise the Mustang dyno will do... as long as there is a 5 wire O2 present.
header bolt, you MAY be able to do, removing the header altogether, and using a pair of ViseGrips to turn the bolt... of course being very careful not the mess up the gasket mating surface that's bound to be in close proximity.
tuning needs to be done at a reliable shop, I think one of the affiliates has a dyno... if you can find a DynoJet 248C, use that, otherwise the Mustang dyno will do... as long as there is a 5 wire O2 present.
10-Sep-2003, 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by 2 rice 4 u
Thanks dude.
I think I can beat torrey anyways. I also know that I need to get my vafc tuned, header bolt fixed, IACV valve changed, and it dyno'd and tuned to perfection.
Where can I get this done ?
Thanks dude.I think I can beat torrey anyways. I also know that I need to get my vafc tuned, header bolt fixed, IACV valve changed, and it dyno'd and tuned to perfection.
Where can I get this done ?
HAHAHA
You want a turbo to beat me?
You can buy my car in about 6-8 months,,,, by then I'll be buying something that comes turbo from the factory.
Silvia or 97-99 Eclipse is what I have in mind.... more leaning towards the silvia because I've already done a DSM.
10-Sep-2003, 04:32 PM
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Hey what is this AUTO-X all about?
Is it driver training? Is it something like those racing schools?
I would be very interested to join!
I'm 22, G class liceneced, 4 years driving experience, 2 years of that with stick.
I know couple technics: Shift-lock, Braking, Accele-off, and working on RIGHT foot braking.
I can handle turns pretty well, and know my car well.
I would be very very interested into this AUTO-X, if it is what I think it is.
Someone inform we please!
Is it driver training? Is it something like those racing schools?
I would be very interested to join!
I'm 22, G class liceneced, 4 years driving experience, 2 years of that with stick.
I know couple technics: Shift-lock, Braking, Accele-off, and working on RIGHT foot braking.
I can handle turns pretty well, and know my car well.
I would be very very interested into this AUTO-X, if it is what I think it is.
Someone inform we please!
10-Sep-2003, 04:35 PM
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auto-x is the parkinglot cone dance... relatively low speed, high adrenaline, lots of fun to both watch and participate. Hook up with this ***** "gatherer" (j/k Jay) and he'll show you the ropes. It's a great hands on way to legally explore the limits of both driver, car, and possibly passenger 
(j/k Jay) and he'll show you the ropes. It's a great hands on way to legally explore the limits of both driver, car, and possibly passenger
10-Sep-2003, 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Gatsby
Could you be a bit more specific?
What is done in the process?
What is it that will be practiced?
Could you be a bit more specific?
What is done in the process?
What is it that will be practiced?
http://www.autocross.com/
10-Sep-2003, 05:21 PM
#20
LOL, well the question was unrealistic... causing an extreme case of postium whoresectomy thus leading to the debate about auto-x whereby it seemed natural that despite the absence of gatherer, a whoring thread ought to be about Solo2.
