Tranny/Driveshaft seals
15-May-2003, 04:28 PM
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Tranny/Driveshaft seals
I have a hydro b16a tranny...
My question is, other than the driveshaft seal, what else would cause a tranny fluid leak?
Its basically leaking through the driveshaft seal, and I notice it when its parked overnight. I had the driveshaft seal replaced with one from a civic SIR, TWICE, and after 2-3 weeks it'll leak again.
Is there any seals that could have went? Any advice/suggestions would be GREAT!!!! I've asked everyone I know, and no-one really knows.
My question is, other than the driveshaft seal, what else would cause a tranny fluid leak?
Its basically leaking through the driveshaft seal, and I notice it when its parked overnight. I had the driveshaft seal replaced with one from a civic SIR, TWICE, and after 2-3 weeks it'll leak again.
Is there any seals that could have went? Any advice/suggestions would be GREAT!!!! I've asked everyone I know, and no-one really knows.
15-May-2003, 06:15 PM
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left and right..
there should be one seal per side of the transaxle..
did you add some grease to hold in the spring when you installed them (underside of the seal..)>>most times it's the spring popping off that makes them leak..
did you use a hammer or a piece larger than the seal to install it??
other thing might be the gasket/seal where the case bolts together..
the other possibility is what bb said, that the axle is worn or pitted where it rides on the seal..ergo, no real seal made
i'd have to get a look at it..(ya, i was a lic. tranny mech. at one time..)
there should be one seal per side of the transaxle..
did you add some grease to hold in the spring when you installed them (underside of the seal..)>>most times it's the spring popping off that makes them leak..
did you use a hammer or a piece larger than the seal to install it??
other thing might be the gasket/seal where the case bolts together..
the other possibility is what bb said, that the axle is worn or pitted where it rides on the seal..ergo, no real seal made
i'd have to get a look at it..(ya, i was a lic. tranny mech. at one time..)
16-May-2003, 08:43 AM
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Hmmm... Si Veloz as a tranny mech huh? I may have some ??s for you later Marty 
Tman, the axle is a possibility, but like I said is a pretty expensive guess to take. Did you inspect the seals to find out why they failed? Did they have extra wear on one portion, or were they torn to shreds, or what?
Tman, the axle is a possibility, but like I said is a pretty expensive guess to take. Did you inspect the seals to find out why they failed? Did they have extra wear on one portion, or were they torn to shreds, or what?
16-May-2003, 09:01 AM
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Expensive? The axle won't be that much. I've already checked pricing.
Well it can't be 'torn to shreads' because when Im not driving the car, it doesnt leak. I'd imagine the driveshafts are just slightly damaged. Fluid isn't ooozing out, but it'll leave a considerable ammount of fluid if I drive it to work and back, and let it sit overnight.
Well it can't be 'torn to shreads' because when Im not driving the car, it doesnt leak. I'd imagine the driveshafts are just slightly damaged. Fluid isn't ooozing out, but it'll leave a considerable ammount of fluid if I drive it to work and back, and let it sit overnight.
16-May-2003, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
Hmmm... Si Veloz as a tranny mech huh? I may have some ??s for you later Marty
Tman, the axle is a possibility, but like I said is a pretty expensive guess to take. Did you inspect the seals to find out why they failed? Did they have extra wear on one portion, or were they torn to shreds, or what?
Hmmm... Si Veloz as a tranny mech huh? I may have some ??s for you later Marty
Tman, the axle is a possibility, but like I said is a pretty expensive guess to take. Did you inspect the seals to find out why they failed? Did they have extra wear on one portion, or were they torn to shreds, or what?
rwd, atx/mtx etc..
the newer Honda's i dunno a lot about....yet....
tho ya, i'll try and give ya what info i can....
16-May-2003, 01:40 PM
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Marty, this will be an old skool manual tranny question... Namely 1985 Suzuki Samurai 4x4 5 speed. (it's RWD in 2WD mode) I think I know everything I need to know, but once I start taking isht out... ya never know. 
Like if you were to rebuild a tranny to be like new, what would you change? Same with the transfer case?
Like if you were to rebuild a tranny to be like new, what would you change? Same with the transfer case?
16-May-2003, 02:00 PM
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bearings/needle bearings and synchros..
maybe the shafts if they look worn out...(for the counter-shaft i mean..only pull it if ya feel like it tho..or teeth are worn etc..)
if there's any whine to it have a look at the gears (skip reverse..they're meant to whine cuz they're spur gears, but you already knew that )
and re-do the seals/gasket...that's about it...
maybe the shafts if they look worn out...(for the counter-shaft i mean..only pull it if ya feel like it tho..or teeth are worn etc..)
if there's any whine to it have a look at the gears (skip reverse..they're meant to whine cuz they're spur gears, but you already knew that
)and re-do the seals/gasket...that's about it...
16-May-2003, 02:54 PM
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cool... the tranny whines in neutral with the clutch out, but I'm guessing that's a simple pilot bearing change. Syncros are good, no grinds. But agian I won't know till I dig it out. My parents asked me to sell one of my cars 
so I said... if I pay and build a massive garage in the back yard can I keep the cars? So looks like I'm building a garage this summer Then at the end of the summer I can get back to my 4x4 project and work it through the winter too... plus storage for the Civic in the winter.
so I said... if I pay and build a massive garage in the back yard can I keep the cars? So looks like I'm building a garage this summer Then at the end of the summer I can get back to my 4x4 project and work it through the winter too... plus storage for the Civic in the winter.
16-May-2003, 04:06 PM
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cool...
ya, i wish my parents would sell their place..
i could use the 3 bay right about now
get them old T-Birds outta there and i'd be all set..
well, one i'd keep (the 58 rag) cuz my dad's been working on it for about 20 years now doing a ground up..i'd kinda like to finish it...
ya, i wish my parents would sell their place..
i could use the 3 bay right about now
get them old T-Birds outta there and i'd be all set..
well, one i'd keep (the 58 rag) cuz my dad's been working on it for about 20 years now doing a ground up..i'd kinda like to finish it...
16-May-2003, 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Tman
Expensive? The axle won't be that much. I've already checked pricing.
Well it can't be 'torn to shreads' because when Im not driving the car, it doesnt leak. I'd imagine the driveshafts are just slightly damaged. Fluid isn't ooozing out, but it'll leave a considerable ammount of fluid if I drive it to work and back, and let it sit overnight.
Expensive? The axle won't be that much. I've already checked pricing.
Well it can't be 'torn to shreads' because when Im not driving the car, it doesnt leak. I'd imagine the driveshafts are just slightly damaged. Fluid isn't ooozing out, but it'll leave a considerable ammount of fluid if I drive it to work and back, and let it sit overnight.
22-May-2003, 03:52 PM
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I'm an idiot... we were using SIR seals.
The tranny is a teg tranny, with teg shafts... henceforth, I should be using a teg driveshaft seal.
I'm calling Acura tomorrow with the tranny serial number, then I'm trying the TEG driveshaft seal.
Wow, I'm an IDIOT!!!
The tranny is a teg tranny, with teg shafts... henceforth, I should be using a teg driveshaft seal.
I'm calling Acura tomorrow with the tranny serial number, then I'm trying the TEG driveshaft seal.
Wow, I'm an IDIOT!!!
22-May-2003, 04:27 PM
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good outlook Marty!!
i keep detailed records of everything that goes on with my cars... just in case I run into a problem like this. Like where each part was bought, price, car it came from, car it was designed for... etc. Modding a car is more than just throwing parts together... for me documentation is a HUGE part of it. Unfortunately, it's mostly all in my head
i keep detailed records of everything that goes on with my cars... just in case I run into a problem like this. Like where each part was bought, price, car it came from, car it was designed for... etc. Modding a car is more than just throwing parts together... for me documentation is a HUGE part of it. Unfortunately, it's mostly all in my head
22-May-2003, 04:31 PM
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If I did the swap, then I'd know exactly what was from where. But since I picked up the car pretty cheap, with a swap done, I thought I could figure out myself what was done.
fAWk.... I could have had this fixed AGES ago!!
fAWk.... I could have had this fixed AGES ago!!
23-May-2003, 12:04 PM
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WTF, the SIR seals and the TEG seals are the same?
We ran the serial number of my tranny to the acura dealer,,, and then checked the part numbers, and its the same as the past 2 seals I've replaced.
???
We ran the serial number of my tranny to the acura dealer,,, and then checked the part numbers, and its the same as the past 2 seals I've replaced.
???
