spracingsports

i keep hearing all you pepul talk about tom's motorsport... and for the longest time i thought you were talking about the legengary japanese toyota tuners TOM'S. i was wondering this cuz i thought they didnt make honda parts. to my luck someone posted a link to their site and i saw that it was different.

imported_loudsubz

there coilovers are cheap $$

Bovolu

are they any good tho??

imported_loudsubz

you get what you pay for... but for the price they arnt bad at all, kind of bouncy but add better shocks and it should be ok

PULOVR

They are not bouncy because of the springs....they are bouncey becuse people drop them too low (beyond 2"), and thier original shocks/stuts are fuqked.

imported_toyman29

TOM's Motorsport is different to TOMS

theres a diff
one makes specialty performance parts for toyotas, the other is just like Ractive brands

imported_gatherer

if you change the shocks as well and drop it correctly with corner wieghing the car and all ... then you'll be ok

dingus8

muhahaha I have scales at my disposal....(to corner weight)

imported_mugen_r

I have Toms Coilovers and they aren't bad, I have Tokico BLues on also and the rid is pretty stiff

B18C|

yo tomss are good man...i had em on my 95 civic 4 dr...and it was SLAMMMEEDD like 2 inches off the floor with stock shocks
its not good to have it that low with stock shocks but i did and it drove OK...however slap some koni yellows or tokicos and it will be syckkkkk...

B18C|

whats corner weighing???

dingus8

match weight on all four corners....adjust the coils up and down on every side to get the weight distributed over all four corners

imported_gatherer

well said ..but to be more exact.... (since that can't actually happen no matter how hard you try)

you wiegh all four corners of your car (a corner in this case is the wheels) you place them on scales....

now you add the front and back together for the left side and the front and back together for the right side. these are you total wieghts no matter how hard you try the wieght on the left side will not decrease on increase and same with the wieght on the right side.

now you work out the front left as a percent of the total left side wieght..... you do the same for for the right side and backs of both sides....

so the calculation to use is:

Where LF is Left Front wieght
Where LR is Left Rear wieght
Where RF is right Front wieght
Where RR is Right rear wieght


LF/(LF +LR) *100% = Left Front percentage of Left Side (LFP)
LR/(LF +LR) *100% = Left Rear percentage of Left Side (LRP)
RF/(RF +RR) *100% = Right Front percentage of Right Side (RFP)
RR/(RF +RR) *100% = Right Rear percentage of Right Side (RRP)

the Goal of corner wieghting is to get LFP=RFP and LRP=RRP, these are the percentages you want to make equal so even if the total Right side is heavier then the total left side the ratio of front to back wieght is the same. in Weight distribution it's all about ratios not actual wieght.

now to adjust the wieght on each corner like was said before you raidse and lower the spring perches. I recommend starting at the drop you want and then going from there.

key things to remember:

1) trial and error is ok. if you have the scales or a certain amount of time with them experiment thats how you learn you can't break anything.

2) Corner Weigh the car with Driver and any normal Passengers.... if you drive Grandma to work everyday have Grandma come out for the day ... you spend time with her (which she'll like) you at her cookies (which She'll like) and your driving her around all the time will be a nice smooth ride (Which she'll like)

3) if you raise a corner of the car that corner will have MORE weight on it not less (confusing ain't it? I'll explain later

4) if you change something on one corner it will afffect the wieght at all corners. However the second most affected corner will be the one opposite the one your working on. quick way to find the opposite one. take whichever side your working on and take the opposite of that now take the position your working on(front or back) now take the opposite of that. and presto the opposite corner emerges. so if you change the LF the RR will be the next most affected corner.

Number 4 there is important because when you move wieght around it's easy to see (after doing step one a bit) that wieght for the most part is moved from one corner to the opposite corner.

now stolen directly from a book I own:

ok so now you have it. once you have the LFP = the RFP and the RRP= the LRP your car is properly corner wieghted.

I think I'm going to place this in a special spot as well....

dingus8

I was going for the no frills explanation..

imported_gatherer

I was bored as you can see I have no life ....