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Old 15-Sep-2003, 11:46 PM
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Tom Coilover

Hihi Everyone!
What do you guys think of the Tom Coilover on stock shocks??

Is it comparable to what Eibach and Neuspeed could offer?
Thanks bor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 16-Sep-2003, 12:24 AM
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from my understanding of this kit it comes with 2 350 FT/lb springs and 2 450 ft/lb springs. both are the same length. I'd recommend for daily driving the 450 in the front.... for track the 350 in the front and 450 in the rear..... also if you get coilovers for the love of your car have it corner weighed.

also Eibach and Neuspeed are bigger names (in my opinion) and therefore more popular.....
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Old 16-Sep-2003, 12:29 AM
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tom motorsports are equal to r1's and weapon r...they are lower quality...and with stock shocks will be crap...work on buyign a good set of shocks first then go for the springs....that is how it shodul be done...focus on the shocks then go for springs....I'd stay away from them and stick to the quality well know manufacturers that gurantee their product...get some h&r sports or neuspeed sports...with soem Agx's or illumina's or even koni reds....jsut remeber the suspenion it a complete package springs and shocks so dotn' neglect the shock seeign hwo it will effect how the spring reacts and how your car handles....
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Old 16-Sep-2003, 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by dingus8
tom motorsports are equal to r1's and weapon r...they are lower quality...and with stock shocks will be crap...work on buyign a good set of shocks first then go for the springs....that is how it shodul be done...focus on the shocks then go for springs....I'd stay away from them and stick to the quality well know manufacturers that gurantee their product...get some h&r sports or neuspeed sports...with soem Agx's or illumina's or even koni reds....jsut remeber the suspenion it a complete package springs and shocks so dotn' neglect the shock seeign hwo it will effect how the spring reacts and how your car handles....
I totally agree
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Old 16-Sep-2003, 08:51 AM
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cant stress that enough....
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that is very true...but sometimes people don't have the funds for that whole setup and they want a quick drop...
my car looks like a monster truck, cuz i want to save up for tein's full coilovers.
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Originally posted by dingus8
tom motorsports are equal to r1's and weapon r...they are lower quality...and with stock shocks will be crap...work on buyign a good set of shocks first then go for the springs....that is how it shodul be done...focus on the shocks then go for springs....I'd stay away from them and stick to the quality well know manufacturers that gurantee their product...get some h&r sports or neuspeed sports...with soem Agx's or illumina's or even koni reds....jsut remeber the suspenion it a complete package springs and shocks so dotn' neglect the shock seeign hwo it will effect how the spring reacts and how your car handles....
yep
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Old 16-Sep-2003, 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by nautica_t
that is very true...but sometimes people don't have the funds for that whole setup and they want a quick drop...
my car looks like a monster truck, cuz i want to save up for tein's full coilovers.

thats why I recomend leaving it stock, untill the funds do arrive (like what you are doing, sveing for teins )... Its worth waiting for....
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he who is smart but on a budget, will use ITR springs and Koni red shocks. he who is smart, and on a bigger budget will use Koni yellow, and a nice progressive spring like the Eibach Pro Kit.
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Old 16-Sep-2003, 12:41 PM
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he who is cheap will use neuspeed race springs on stock shocks though
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Old 16-Sep-2003, 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
he who is smart but on a budget, will use ITR springs and Koni red shocks. he who is smart, and on a bigger budget will use Koni yellow, and a nice progressive spring like the Eibach Pro Kit.
he who has lots of knowledge shall despense it.
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he who is stupid doesn't know what is the lowering rate for the itr spring
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Old 16-Sep-2003, 02:27 PM
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not much less than 0.75 inches.... wheel travel has been highly neglected for many many years now, it's time to wake up and NOT feel the bump LOL

H&R actually has another line... OE Sport I think, only slightly stiffer, little lower. Very nice those would be nicely paired with KYB AGX.
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^^thank you for stating...."slamming it" isnt' good necessarily....wheel travel is good...remember your suspenion isnt' working when it's on the bump stops...h&r oe sports are liek a .5 inch drop with slighlty higher of a spring rate...mayeb you could find a complete SIR shock and spring set......nothign special but better than yoru 7 year old stocker much bucket stuff....save up for a bit more than get a good setup. ..probobly abotu a grand I'd say give of take for a decent setup with camber kit alignment yada yada...then next is tires...
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I don't like camber kits... they introduce a whole new dimension that ppl just don't understand. Way I see it, if you are way outside the stock specs, you've gone too far away from normal parameters of the OEM geometry. This can make the car unpredictable... most ppl don't understand "unpredictable" cars until they come to an emergency situation, like swerving around a broken off peice of tire on the road and whatnot.

Be careful to not make your car one of these unpredictable cars... where oversteer is easily induced, cuz if you ever come to a situation where your car is sideways on the highway, you'll **** yourself.

How this relates to your questions is... don't buy crap components for your car, don't buy unknown spring rates, don't slam your car.... and always carefully consider the advice of those who have done this a lot... ie. members of this club. I used to think it was way cool to be scraping, and to tuck tires, and to bounce around over minor road imperfections... and it's taken me 4 susp setups to get it right, and it's still not over. I'm always tweaking and improving it.
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I am against camber kits ...waste of money IMO... 2 inch drop with a proper toe alignment, and rotate tires every oil change, since there is more camber in the rear.... Thats a respectable setup, looks nice, safe, reliable... even 1 3/4 inch drop...
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this winter i'm thinking of getting a spare set of control arms all around and then cut them taking a bit of length off them and re welding them to correct for camber and not destroy the fenders....
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ive seen it work quite well
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Old 17-Sep-2003, 06:53 PM
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shoudln't need a camber kit till after a 1.5 inch drop anyway from what I have seen gernally.....jsut a good alignment.....and negative camber is good for "track use" when set correctly...but that's another story
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